Supercooling of water-what's going on?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of supercooling in water, particularly focusing on how water can remain in a liquid state below its freezing point and the role of impurities in the crystallization process. The scope includes theoretical explanations and conceptual clarifications related to the behavior of supercooled water and ice formation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the process of supercooling and the conditions under which water can remain liquid below 0°C.
  • One participant mentions that a small amount of energy is required to initiate ice formation, suggesting that impurities or defects can facilitate this process by providing a nucleation site.
  • Another participant notes that water can be cooled to approximately -40°C before the cooling becomes sufficient to trigger ice formation, even in the absence of impurities.

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Participants express curiosity about the mechanisms of supercooling and the influence of impurities, but there is no consensus on the specifics of these processes or the implications of the observations made.

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The discussion does not resolve the complexities of supercooling, including the precise conditions required for ice nucleation and the varying effects of different types of impurities.

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Perhaps you have seen the videos of either beer or distilled/purified water flash freezing. What usually happens is someone has a bottle of water and he hits it on something, then the water in the bottle begins to freeze from top to bottom. Or sometimes someone has the bottle of supercooled water and they pour it over ice in a bowl and the water instantly turns into slushy.

I want to know how the water can supercool, and what effect impurities have on the crystallization of water.
 
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BuddyPal said:
I want to know how the water can supercool, and what effect impurities have on the crystallization of water.
By the nature of this last statement, you seem to already know. Is there something specific you'd like clarified?
 
It takes a small amount of energy to make the surface area of the first bit of ice. Even though you are going to release a lot more energy freezing the water you need to get over this initial hump. If there is already a small cavity like a spec of dust or a crack in the container to start from the amount of surface needed and so the energy is reduced.

You can cool water to about -40degC before the cooling becomes powerful enough to form ice anyway even if there are no impurities to start the process.
 
Thanks, that clarifies a lot =)
 

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