Symmetries in Sidney Colemans QFT script

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The discussion revolves around the definitions of transformations and functional derivatives as introduced in Sidney Coleman's lecture notes on Quantum Field Theory (QFT). Participants seek clarification on these concepts and their relation to variational calculus and differential geometry.

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  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the definitions of transformations of generalized coordinates and functional derivatives as presented in Coleman's notes.
  • Another participant explains that the derivative mentioned is a functional derivative, relating it to a family of curves indexed by a parameter, ##\lambda##, and connects it to variational calculus.
  • A participant notes a similarity between the discussed concepts and geodesic deviation in General Relativity (GR) and inquires about deeper sources for understanding.
  • Another participant suggests that the notation might be standard in differential geometry and mentions a specific source, Michael Luke's QFT notes, as a reference.
  • One participant acknowledges the explanations and expresses intent to explore GR and differential geometry for further understanding.

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Participants generally agree on the nature of the functional derivative and its relation to variational calculus, but there is no consensus on the availability of deeper literature or the extent of the concepts' applications in differential geometry.

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Hello Everybody,

I am learning QFT using Sidney Colemans lecture notes (and the Peskin Schroeder book). They can be found here:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.5013

Now, in page 40, he introduces in the paragraph Symmetries and Conservation laws some definitions which I don't quite understand.

First he writes,

q^a(t) \rightarrow q^a(t,\lambda).
For a transformation of the generalized coordinates.

Second he defines,

Dq^a \equiv \frac{\partial q^a}{\partial \lambda}.

Now my question is just, does anybody recognize these definitions? is there some book where I can find, learn and play with them?
I never saw such a definition for a symmetry.
Well, if no literature exsits, can anybody explain to me what this derivative means?

Thanks a lot!
 
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It's a functional derivative. The idea is you have some curve parametrized by t. Now imagine you have a whole family of curves with the same endpoints where each curve is smoothly indexed by another parameter, ##\lambda##. That is, if t is fixed then as you change ##\lambda## you smoothly trace a line through the whole family of curves. It doesn't matter exactly how you draw the family of curves since we only will care about the ones very close to the original trajectory, and we define everything so that ##q^a(t,0)## is just the original trajectory.

Now taking the partial derivative (evaluated at ##\lambda=0##) of this new 2-parameter function with respect to lambda is the same as just varying the function using the usual tools of variational calculus. If you've done this before (say for the Lagrangian formulation of mechanics, deriving the Euler-Lagrange equations, etc.) you can just think of this as being the same as what you would normally write as as ##\delta q^a##.
 
I understand your reply. Ifor sure did variational calculus.
It reminds of the equations for geodesic deviation in GR.
But is there a source where I can learn this stuff deeper?

Thanks for your reply!
 
Since it does, as you say, look a lot like geodesic deviation, I can only guess that it's standard formalism in differential geometry. So, I guess you could look there—but I'm not sure there's much "deeper" than what you see. In any case, the only time I've seen that notation besides Coleman's notes were in Michael Luke's QFT notes—which are just an abridgement of Coleman's.
 
Ok! got it! I'll check some GR books since to be honest I skipped the GD eq., so to get a feeling for it.

Well if needed I'll chekc some differential geometry books.

But your explanation was straight forward anyway!
So many thanks for your help!
 

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