Symplectic integrator, non-separable Hamiltonian

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The discussion focuses on the challenges of modifying a symplectic integrator for non-separable Hamiltonians, specifically using the Stormer-Verlet equation. The author confirms that while their implementation maintains symplectic properties without energy creep, it only achieves first-order accuracy with respect to step size. Attempts to increase the order through composition have proven ineffective, leading to the conclusion that non-separable symplectic integrators are not composable due to their inherent asymmetry. The author seeks validation or correction of this assertion from the community.

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I have been attempting to modify a symplectic integrator that I wrote a while ago. It works very well for "separable" hamiltonians, but I want to use it to simulate a double pendulum.

I am using the Stormer-Verlet equation (3) from this source. From the article "Even order 2 follows from its symmetry."

In the case of a separable hamiltonian, ##\nabla q## is a function only of ##q##, and similarly for ##p##, so that the equations form a symmetrical sequence of three function calls.

For a non-separable hamiltonian, this is no longer true, and it is necessary to use the full equations, but these are no longer symmetrical (the first two are implicit whilst the last is explicit).

Anyhow, I have implemented the full non symmetrical equations, and while they are "symplectic" in the sense that there is no systematic "energy creep" in the output, they are only first order WRT step size, and my attempts to increase the order via composition are ineffective (the composition is still first order).

So, my question is this: is it possible to compose these implicit equations, or does their asymmetry prevent this? In other words, have I just made an error somewhere in my implementation?
 
OK, no response from stack exchange.

I have backed away for a while and returned to experimenting with this, and my conclusions remain the same: non-separable (implicit) symplectic integrators (being non-symmetrical) are not composable i.e. the Stormer-Verlet method is only first-order for non-separable Hamiltonians.

The examples I have been using are the double pendulum, and the Kerr metric (MTW p.900 equation 33.35).

It would be really nice to get confirmation (or refutation!) of this - surely someone on Physics Forums knows the answer?
 

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