System of equations 4 variable

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a system of four linear equations involving four variables: w, x, y, and z. Participants are exploring various methods to approach the problem, including algebraic manipulation and potential use of matrix techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve the equations through a series of algebraic manipulations but expresses frustration over the tediousness and potential mistakes in their calculations. Some participants question the effectiveness of the approach taken and suggest considering alternative methods like Gaussian elimination.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively identifying mistakes in calculations and discussing the implications of those errors. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Gaussian elimination, although one participant notes that their math course does not cover matrices, which limits their options. There is an acknowledgment of errors in the calculations, particularly regarding the value of y.

Contextual Notes

One participant mentions that their math course does not include matrices, which may affect their ability to apply certain methods for solving the system of equations. There is also a recognition of the original poster's struggle with the calculations and the need for clarification on specific steps.

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Homework Statement


Solve
2w + 2x - 5y + z = -16 (1)
-w + x + 6y - z = 15 (2)
2w - x + y + 6z = 3 (3)
w + x + 2y - z = 7 (4)

The Attempt at a Solution



(2) + (4) = 2x + 8y - 2z = 22 (5)

2(2) + (3)= x + 13y + 4z = 33(6)

2(2) + (1)= 4x + 7y - z = 14 (7)
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-2(6) + (5)= -18y - 10z = -44 (8)

-4(6) + (7)= -45y - 17z = -118(9)

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-17(8) + 10 (9)= y = 432/90 (10)

then start substituting. is this the best way to do it I found it very tedious and my answers didnt check I obviously made a mistake somewhere but I can't say I know what I did wrong (w,x,y,z) (62/85,207/85,24/5,98/17)
 
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I found my mistake y=3
 
The best way to solve the problem depends on your mathematical background. It seems evident that you don't have any experience with matrices, or else you would have used likely used Gaussian elimination (which is usually quicker, especially with a computer).

The work for you to learn this tool (Gaussian elimination) in solving systems of linear equations should be relatively easy for you to obtain with your current background. If your interested, see the link with example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_elimination#Example
 
(5), (6) ,(7), (8), (9) are right.

In (10), however, the y-coefficient, (-17)*(-18)-45*10=-144, rather than -90. (RHS equals -432.

Thus, the y-value out to be 432/144=3

Thus, z=-1, and you can calculate x and w yourself. :smile:
 
actually in my math course matrices are not covered for whatever reason. we stop right before the chapter on matrices. and completely skip it. I will have to ask my instructor why.
 
yes somehow I got 90 from that subtraction not sure how but I figured it out now thx.
 

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