System of equations with Mathematica

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The discussion centers on solving a system of equations using Mathematica, specifically a quartic equation and an inequality involving five unknowns: \(x\), \(a\), \(b\), \(s\), and \(v\). It is established that Mathematica cannot fully solve this system due to the insufficient number of equations relative to the unknowns. However, users can express \(b\) in terms of \(x\) and \(a\) by rearranging the quartic equation, leading to the formula \(b = \frac{-u \pm \sqrt{u^2 - 12v}}{6}\), where \(u\) and \(v\) are defined in terms of \(x\) and \(a\).

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Hello!

I'm currently working with Maple but I do not really like the program. Is there someone with Mathematica who can run this system?

$$\left \{ \begin{array}{ll} 16x^4-40ax^3+(15a^2+24b)x^2-18abx+3b^2 = 0 \\ 4x^4+5a s \sqrt{v} x^2 - 8 s \sqrt{v} x^3 - b s \sqrt{v} x > 0 \end{array} \right.$$

If it would help $a<0$ and $s<0$.

Thanks!
 
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Hmm. Mathematica is not going to be able to solve your system fully, because you have five unknowns, but only one equation and one inequality. You can find $x$ in terms of $a$ and $b$, but that's a quartic, which will be horrendous. It'll take pages just to write down the solution. As for the inequality, I'm not sure Mathematica could glean much of anything from that.
 
Ackbach said:
Hmm. Mathematica is not going to be able to solve your system fully, because you have five unknowns, but only one equation and one inequality. You can find $x$ in terms of $a$ and $b$, but that's a quartic, which will be horrendous. It'll take pages just to write down the solution. As for the inequality, I'm not sure Mathematica could glean much of anything from that.

Thanks Ackbach! I knew I could expecting something like this. These ugly expressions keep coming ...
 
Siron said:
$$\left \{ \begin{array}{ll} 16x^4-40ax^3+(15a^2+24b)x^2-18abx+3b^2 = 0 \\ 4x^4+5a s \sqrt{v} x^2 - 8 s \sqrt{v} x^3 - b s \sqrt{v} x > 0 \end{array} \right.$$
With all those variables and 1 equation only, what is the problem statement?

The equation can be rearranged in terms of b (as example):

b = [-u +- SQRT(u^2 - 12v)] / 6
where:
u = 24x^2 - 18ax
v = 16x^4 - 40ax^3 + 15ax^2

So if x and a are givens, then you can solve for b.
 

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