T2K: >2 sigma preference for neutrino CP violation

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The discussion centers around the T2K experiment's findings related to neutrino CP violation, specifically the implications of a reported >2 sigma preference for a non-zero CP phase, ##\delta_{CP}##. Participants explore the significance of these results, their implications for CP conservation, and the future of neutrino oscillation experiments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the main plot suggests ##\delta_{CP}## is around -2, indicating a preference for muon neutrinos oscillating to electron neutrinos over anti-muon neutrinos to anti-electron neutrinos.
  • Others caution against over-excitement, arguing that the result does not significantly advance the understanding of CP conservation, which remains within the ##2\sigma## region.
  • One participant mentions that if only standard oscillations are present, the early T2K results might be statistical fluctuations rather than definitive evidence of CP violation.
  • There is a suggestion that while current experiments may struggle to exclude CP conservation at high confidence levels, future experiments could have a better chance of doing so.
  • Some participants highlight that ##\delta_{CP}## is a free parameter in the standard model, which raises questions about its treatment in beyond standard model (BSM) approaches.
  • Another participant asserts that neutrino mixing is beyond the standard model and is a free parameter in all models they are aware of.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the T2K results and the implications for CP conservation. While some see potential for future experiments to provide clearer insights, others remain skeptical about the current findings' impact.

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The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the T2K results, the statistical significance of the measurements, and the implications for future research in neutrino physics.

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The main plot is on slide 18: ##\delta_{CP}## seems to be somewhere around -2, with 0 appearing unlikely. In other words, muon neutrinos oscillate more likely to electron neutrinos than anti-muon neutrinos oscillate to anti-electron neutrinos.

The measurement is not very precise yet, but unlike for most LHC measurements, there is no reason to expect 0 - the CP phase is a free parameter, it can be anything. T2K plans to collect 10 times more data within the next 10 years, so we will get more precise measurements in the not so distant future. Other experiments will contribute as well.
 
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Well, let us not get over-excited with this. This result does not add a lot to what we already had from T2K and CP conservation is still essentially within the ##2\sigma## region. If there are only standard oscillations, the early T2K results in the neutrino channel would be a statistical fluctuation regardless of the parameters, just one that would be more likely in the case of maximal CP-violation.

This being said, T2K will continue to take data for some time still and NOvA as well. However, to me it appears unrealistic for the current generation of experiments to exclude CP-conservation at high confidence (##5\sigma +##). However, the next generation of experiments will stand a good chance of doing so and probing the mass ordering.
 
Well, there is no prediction of δ_CP = 0, it can have any value. That makes the 2 sigma more relevant than "we saw a 2 sigma deviation from the standard model prediction".

The expected significance was a bit below 2 sigma, a naive scaling with the protons on target would lead to an expected significance close to 5 sigma in 2027 from T2K alone.
 
So is the point here that it's a free parameter in the standard model, but not in certain BSM approaches?
 
Neutrino mixing is beyond the standard model, and it is a free parameter in all models I am aware of.
 
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