Tangential acceleration of proton due to a changing magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tangential acceleration of a proton in a changing magnetic field using the formula for electric field due to a changing magnetic field. The correct expression for the tangential electric field is identified as E = -\frac{R}{2}\frac{dB}{dt}, leading to the calculation of tangential acceleration a_t = \frac{q|E|}{m}. The final correct value for tangential acceleration is determined to be a_t = 4.79 \times 10^4 m/s^2, correcting the initial miscalculation of \frac{dv}{dt}.

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Homework Statement
In earlier learning sequences we described how a static magnetic field cannot change the speed (and therefore kinetic energy) of a free charged particle. A changing magnetic field can, and this is one way particle beams are accelerated. Consider free protons following a circular path in a uniform magnetic field with a radius of 1 m. At t=0s, the magnitude of the uniform magnetic field begins to increase at 0.001T/s. Enter the tangential acceleration of the protons in positive if they speed up and negative if they slow down.
Relevant Equations
##\displaystyle R=\frac{mv}{qB}##
##\displaystyle R=\frac{mv}{qB}\implies v=\frac{RqB}{m}## where ##v## is the speed of the proton

##\displaystyle\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{Rq}{m}\frac{dB}{dt}##

On substituting the values, I get ##\displaystyle\frac{dv}{dt}=9.58\times 10^4\ m/s^2##

This answer, however, is incorrect. Where have I gone wrong?
 
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For a circle of radius R,
E = -\frac{\pi R^2}{2\pi R}\frac{dB}{dt}=-\frac{mv}{2qB}\frac{dB}{dt}
Maybe it is worth considered.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
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For a circle of radius R,
E = -\frac{\pi R^2}{2\pi R}\frac{dB}{dt}=-\frac{mv}{2qB}\frac{dB}{dt}
Maybe it is worth considered.
But how do we find ##\displaystyle\frac{dv}{dt}##?

Also, why was my solution incorrect?
 
Meow12 said:
Also, why was my solution incorrect?
You should consider not only B, v but also R changes in time.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
You should consider not only B, v but also R changes in time.
So, the radius R also increases as the speed v increases. But how do we find the tangential acceleration dv/dt?
 
You can try to get it from the equation I mentioned.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
E = -\frac{\pi R^2}{2\pi R}\frac{dB}{dt}=-\frac{mv}{2qB}\frac{dB}{dt}
Are you missing an ##R## in the last term?
 
renormalize said:
Are you missing an ##R## in the last term?
I don't think so because
E = -\frac{\pi R^2}{2\pi R}\frac{dB}{dt}=-\frac{R}{2}\frac{dB}{dt}=-\frac{mv}{2qB}\frac{dB}{dt}
 
anuttarasammyak said:
I do not think so because
E = -\frac{\pi R^2}{2\pi R}\frac{dB}{dt}=-\frac{R}{2}\frac{dB}{dt}=-\frac{mv}{2qB}\frac{dB}{dt}
Ah yes, you are correct!
 
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Meow12 said:
So, the radius R also increases as the speed v increases. But how do we find the tangential acceleration dv/dt?
Consider the equation that @anuttarasammyak wrote above for the tangential electric field ##E##:$$E=-\frac{R}{2}\frac{dB}{dt}$$What's the relation between an electric field, an electric force and a charge?
 
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renormalize said:
Consider the equation that @anuttarasammyak wrote above for the tangential electric field ##E##:$$E=-\frac{R}{2}\frac{dB}{dt}$$What's the relation between an electric field, an electric force and a charge?
Plugging in the values, I get ##|E|=5\times 10^{-4}\ N/C##

##\displaystyle a_t=\frac{q|E|}{m}##

Substituting the value of ##|E|##, and the values of ##q## and ##m## for a proton, I get ##a_t=4.79\times 10^4\ m/s^2##, which is the right answer. Thank you so much, both of you. :)
 
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