Tangential and radial particle acceleration

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle moving in a circular path in the xy plane, with given velocity and acceleration vectors. Participants are tasked with determining the x and y coordinates of the particle based on these vectors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of radial acceleration and its implications for determining the radius of the circular path. There are questions about the role of the total acceleration vector and whether the particle's speed is constant. Some participants suggest that the velocity vector indicates the y-coordinate's value.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the acceleration components and their effects on the particle's position. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the velocity direction and the y-coordinate, but no consensus has been reached on the final coordinates.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the particle moves in a circle, which influences their reasoning about the coordinates. There is also a mention of potential constraints regarding the interpretation of acceleration components.

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Homework Statement


A particle moves in the xy plane in a circle centered origin. At a certain instant the velocity and acceleration of the particle are 4.6j m/s and (2.3i - 2.1j) m/s^2. What are the x and y coordinates of the particle at this moment


Homework Equations


ar=-v^2/r


The Attempt at a Solution


I took the magnitude of the radial acceleration and got 3.11 m/s^2 and plugged it into the equation. I got -6.8 for my radius and was told that was the wrong answer for the x coordinate. Then I tried plugging in 2.3 for the radial acceleration and got -9.2 for my radius. Does the -2.1j m/s^2 not play a factor in this problem? I got x=-9.2, but I don't know how to solve for the y component of the problem.
 
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Why-not2007 said:
I took the magnitude of the radial acceleration and got 3.11 m/s^2 and plugged it into the equation.
How did you get this? Are you assuming that the particle is moving with a constant speed? (You are given the total acceleration, not the radial acceleration.)
I got -6.8 for my radius and was told that was the wrong answer for the x coordinate. Then I tried plugging in 2.3 for the radial acceleration and got -9.2 for my radius. Does the -2.1j m/s^2 not play a factor in this problem? I got x=-9.2, but I don't know how to solve for the y component of the problem.
The velocity should tell you the y-coordinate, since it moves in a circle.
 
Why-not2007 said:

Homework Statement


A particle moves in the xy plane in a circle centered origin. At a certain instant the velocity and acceleration of the particle are 4.6j m/s and (2.3i - 2.1j) m/s^2. What are the x and y coordinates of the particle at this moment


Homework Equations


ar=-v^2/r


The Attempt at a Solution


I took the magnitude of the radial acceleration and got 3.11 m/s^2 and plugged it into the equation. I got -6.8 for my radius and was told that was the wrong answer for the x coordinate. Then I tried plugging in 2.3 for the radial acceleration and got -9.2 for my radius. Does the -2.1j m/s^2 not play a factor in this problem? I got x=-9.2, but I don't know how to solve for the y component of the problem.
The velocity is given as being in the 'j' direction only. That should give you a hint on the possible location of the y coordinate. Your value of the centripetal acceleration that you must use depends on the value of the y coordinate you must find first.
 
The y coordinate equal 0?
 
Why-not2007 said:
The y coordinate equal 0?
Absolutely. That's the only way to make sense of the given velocity, since that velocity must be tangential to the circle at all times.
 
Thanks, I appreciate the help.
 

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