Tangential & Normal acceleration in Circular Motion

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of tangential and normal acceleration in the context of circular motion, focusing on the vector components of acceleration and their relationships to velocity. Participants explore the mathematical definitions and implications of these concepts.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of tangential and normal acceleration, with some exploring the vector decomposition of acceleration into components parallel and perpendicular to velocity. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of pseudovectors and their relevance in this context.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the definitions and relationships of acceleration components. Some participants express understanding of the equations involved, while others seek further clarification on specific terms like pseudovectors. Guidance has been offered regarding the mathematical relationships, but no consensus has been reached on all aspects of the topic.

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Some participants reference external resources for further information on curvature and pseudovectors, indicating a reliance on additional materials to support their understanding. The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of the concepts without definitive conclusions.

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Homework Statement
Can I get an intuition (or a derivation) of the equations in the coloured boxes. Please refer the image.
Please be kind to help
Relevant Equations
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The tangential acceleration is the component of the acceleration that is parallel to the velocity.
For any two vectors ##\frac{\vec x.\vec y}{|\vec y|}## is the magnitude of the component of ##\vec x## parallel to ##\vec y## , and ##\frac{\vec y}{|\vec y|}## is the unit vector parallel to ##\vec y##, so the product of the two ##\frac{\vec x.\vec y}{|\vec y|}\frac{\vec y}{|\vec y|}## is the component of ##\vec x## parallel to ##\vec y##. That yields the first part of the first circled equation.

The normal (or centripetal) acceleration is the component normal to the velocity, the tangential and normal accelerations add vectorially to give the whole acceleration. I'll have to think more on how to view the vector equation for that.
 
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Given any vector ##\vec A## and any vector ##\vec V##,
one can write ##\vec A## as the sum of two vectors:
one parallel to ##\vec V## and the other (the rest of ##\vec A##) perpendicular to ##\vec V##.

\begin{align*}
\vec A
&=\vec A_{||V} + (\vec A - \vec A_{||V})
\end{align*}Now,
\begin{align*}
\vec A_{||V}
&= (\vec A \cdot \hat V) \hat V\\
&= (\vec A \cdot \frac{\vec V}{V}) \frac{\vec V}{V}
\end{align*}
[As a special case, let \hat V = \hat x.]
(Check that \vec A_{||V}\cdot \hat V=(\vec A \cdot \hat V)
and that (\vec A - \vec A_{||V})\cdot \hat V=0.)

For a trajectory, \hat V is tangent to the trajectory and (for a planar curve)
\hat V_{\bot} is normal to the trajectory.

So, if \vec A is the acceleration vector (\vec A =\frac{d}{dt}\vec V),
then \vec A_{||V} is the tangential-part of the acceleration vector (responsible for changing the magnitude of \vec V [i.e. speeding up or slowing down]),
and the other part is the normal-part of the acceleration vector (responsible for changing the direction of \vec V [turning the velocity vector] ).

Next, one has to express these in terms of the angular pseudovectors \vec \alpha and \vec \omega [probably should use a different "arrowhead"] (which when crossed with ordinary [polar] vectors result in ordinary [polar] vectors).

You'll probably [implicitly] use the "BAC-CAB" rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_product#Vector_triple_product
https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BAC-CABIdentity.html
 
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haruspex said:
The tangential acceleration is the component of the acceleration that is parallel to the velocity.
That makes sense now. Thanks haruspex. About the second part of 1st equation: I think they are multiplying the perpendicular component of angular acceleration with radius vector giving dv/dt.
 
robphy said:
pseudovectors
What is meant by pseudovectors?
 
PeroK said:
Everything is online these days:
True, thanks a lot for the link though!
 
I think I get both the equations now! Thanks a lot PeroK, robphy and Haruspex! I really appreciate your help.
 

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