Taylor expansion for a nonlinear system and Picard Iterations

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The discussion revolves around the application of Taylor expansion for a nonlinear system and the use of Picard Iterations to approximate solutions. Participants are examining a specific formulation from a textbook, focusing on the mathematical details and implications of the equations presented.

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  • One participant presents a Taylor expansion of a nonlinear system and questions the derivation of a specific equation using Picard Iterations.
  • Another participant references a specific section of the textbook to clarify the context of the discussion.
  • A further contribution suggests viewing the equation for \(x^{(k+1)}\) as a definition rather than a derivation, proposing an alternative perspective involving an inhomogeneous problem.
  • There is a mention of the initial value in Picard iterations, indicating a potential difference in approach or interpretation among participants.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the equations and the necessity of referencing Picard's method. There is no consensus on the best approach to understand the derivation of the equations involved.

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Participants note the importance of verifying the properties of the defined equations and the potential for different interpretations of the initial conditions in the context of Picard iterations.

Ulver48
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Hello guys
I struggle since yesterday with the following problem

I am reading the book "Elements of applied bifurcation theory" by Kuznetsov . At one point he has the following Taylor expansion of a nonlinear system with respect to x=0 where ##x\in \mathbb(R)^n##
$$\dot{x} = f(x) = \Lambda x + F^{2}(x) + F^3(x)+\ldots $$
where ##F^k ## is a smooth polynomial vector-valued function of order k,
$$F_i^k(x)=\sum_{j_1+j_2+\ldots+j_n} b^k_{i,j_1,j_2,\ldots,j_n}x_1^{j_1}x_2^{j_2}\dots x_n^{j_n}$$

Afterwards he tries to approximate the solution of this non-linear system using Picard Iterations. He sets $$x^1(t)=e^{\Lambda t}x $$, which is the solution of the linear approximation for initial data x and defines

$$x^{k+1}=e^{\Lambda t}x + \int_0^t e^{\Lambda(t-\tau)}(F^2(x^k(\tau))+\ldots+F^{k+1}(x^k(\tau)))d\tau $$

I don't understand how he ends up with the last equation by using the Picard Method
$$ x_{n+1}(t) = x_n(0) + \int_0^t f(x_n(\tau)) d\tau $$

Thank you very much for your time.
 
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Does this concern Section 9.5.1 ("Approximation by a flow") in the third edition?
 
Yes. It's in this section.
 
Ulver48 said:
Afterwards he tries to approximate the solution of this non-linear system using Picard Iterations. He sets $$x^1(t)=e^{\Lambda t}x $$, which is the solution of the linear approximation for initial data x and defines

$$x^{k+1}=e^{\Lambda t}x + \int_0^t e^{\Lambda(t-\tau)}(F^2(x^k(\tau))+\ldots+F^{k+1}(x^k(\tau)))d\tau $$

I don't understand how he ends up with the last equation by using the Picard Method
$$ x_{n+1}(t) = x_n(0) + \int_0^t f(x_n(\tau)) d\tau $$
.

I would read the equation for ##x^{(k+1)}## indeed as a definition - and not more than that - and then proceed to verify its claimed properties, for which I don't think any references to Picard's method are necessary.

As a possible motivation, you could also think about ##x^{(k+1)}## as the solution of the inhomogeneous problem
$$
\dot{x}^{(k+1)} = \Lambda x^{(k+1)} + h^{(k+1)}, \qquad x^{(k+1)}(0) = x,
$$
where ##h^{(k+1)}(t) = F^{(2)}(x^{(k)}(t)) + \cdots + F^{(k+1)}(x^{(k)}(t))## is a known forcing function. (If you solve this for ##x^{(k+1)}## using variation-of-constants, then of course you find the book's definition (9.26) for ##x^{(k+1)}## that you quoted.)

(As an aside, it is my impression that for solving the original nonlinear system using Picard iteration, we would usually take the initial value ##x## in the spot where you write ##x_n(0)##.)
 

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