Teach Kids 'Financial Responsibility' Not Debt

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications and historical context of the gold standard, particularly its impact on economies and the nature of gold as a commodity. Participants explore the volatility of the gold market, the relationship between gold and fiat currencies, and the intrinsic value of gold in modern society.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the stability of the gold market and its intended role as a "private US Treasury market," suggesting complexities in how gold pricing is influenced by various market forces.
  • Others argue that historical economies under the gold standard experienced severe downturns, highlighting the limitations of a fixed gold supply in times of economic distress.
  • There is a discussion about the perceived intrinsic value of gold, with some asserting that its value is largely based on societal trust and desirability rather than any inherent qualities.
  • Participants note that while gold has utilitarian uses today, particularly in electronics, a significant portion of gold production is still allocated to jewelry and investments.
  • Some contributions emphasize that the value of currency is more closely tied to a country's creditworthiness rather than its gross national product (GNP).
  • There are differing views on the role of gold in the economy, with some suggesting that the market dynamics are influenced by wealthy investors and traders rather than by the actual supply and demand of gold itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the gold standard, the nature of gold's value, and the relationship between currency value and economic indicators. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on these topics.

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Limitations in the discussion include varying definitions of value, the complexity of market influences, and the historical context of gold standards versus fiat currencies. Participants acknowledge the intricacies involved in understanding the gold market and its implications for economic stability.

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Yeah, and that missed the point of what I was trying to say really anyway. The point is that people (myself included) freak out at the debt but it's fairly clear that we wouldn't want a zero debt (or zero spending) government. People who think they'd do just fine under such a scenario are generally out of touch with where their money is coming from. We can't go back to frontier days and most people can do without a lot of stuff they buy. So in the absence of government spending (and/or debt) things would deteriorate pretty badly for most people. So when thinking about sustainability of debt (an entirely valid question) it helps to calibrate by considering sustainability of no debt. I hate being in debt. But it's basically a necessity. The question is what's the right amount? And that's a political and economic question. What they used to call political economy.
 

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