Teleportation for Energy Extraction

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical use of teleportation for energy extraction, specifically the idea of using teleportation repeater satellites to transport material from the Sun to Earth for fusion energy generation. Participants explore the feasibility and implications of such technology, touching on theoretical and practical aspects of teleportation and fusion energy.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of using teleportation to transport "globs" of the Sun to Earth for harnessing fusion energy directly.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "teleportation," suggesting a comparison to fictional representations like those in Star Trek.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility of teleportation, arguing that it is unlikely to ever exist and that alternative methods for harnessing fusion energy are already being developed.
  • There is a suggestion that if teleportation were possible, it would not be necessary to transport material from the Sun, as existing fusion technology could suffice.
  • A participant discusses a theoretical power generation method involving teleportation, raising concerns about potential violations of thermodynamic laws and the energy costs associated with teleportation.
  • Another participant questions what would happen to the energy from the "globs" during the transfer process, asking if it would be converted into a different form or remain the same.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism about the practicality of teleportation and whether it could be used for energy extraction from the Sun. Multiple competing views remain regarding the feasibility of teleportation and the necessity of transporting solar material for fusion energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for careful definitions of terms related to teleportation and energy transfer. There are unresolved questions about the implications of teleportation on energy conservation and thermodynamics.

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If one day we make Teleportation possible and practical could we use
Teleportation Repeater Satellites in space to Teleport little Globs of our Sun to our Planet for harnessing Fusion Energy directly from the Sun into a Fusion Plant on Earth?

Any Merit? :bugeye:
 
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What do you mean by "teleportation"? Like on Star Trek?
 
First of all, teleporters will most likely never exist. Mathematically speaking, it is more likely that the Earth will come to an end, get struck by a massive meteor, or World War X would destroy human life before teleportation becomes available and practical.

Second of all, there'd be no need to get "gobs" of the sun. We already know how to create fusion reactions. If we ever learn how to "harness" the energy, then the technology is already there. No need to bring the sun into it.

The point here is - think about the other technologies you mentioned - fusion, satellites - and imagine where they will be when and if teleporters ever exist (which they probably won't).
 
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First of all, teleporters will most likely never exist. Mathematically speaking, it is more likely that the Earth will come to an end, get struck by a massive meteor, or World War X would destroy human life before teleportation becomes available and practical.
Oh c'mon, they said we could never fly, or sail across the Atlantic ocean.
 
Point is that IF you had teleporters you wouldn't need to 'port "globs of the sun" for power. After all, what is powering the teleporter?

Can't remember the author, maybe Niven or Pournelle, but he wrote a short on generating power with teleporters. Interesting idea, have a sender on the ground facing up, receiver in the air facing the sender. You drop iron filings on the sender, receiver drops them from then on. After a time because of g you've got a plasma. Wrap it in a coil and you've got electricity. Several problems with it, of course, not least is we don't have teleportation.
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> Can't remember the author, maybe Niven or Pournelle, but he wrote a
> short on generating power with teleporters. Interesting idea, have a
> sender on the ground facing up, receiver in the air facing the sender.
> You drop iron filings on the sender, receiver drops them from then on.
> After a time because of g you've got a plasma. Wrap it in a coil and
> you've got electricity. Several problems with it, of course, not least is
> we don't have teleportation.


Yeah, this sounds suspiciously like a Niven idea. He's an enormously creative writer, and usually with a good hold on physics.

But I see the big problem with this generator as being that it would likely violate the laws of thermodynamics: Wouldn't the power it created be less than the power necessary for teleporting the matter to begin with?

Of course, it all depends on what we mean by "teleporting". We've got to very carefully define our terms. If we achieve teleportation by making a wormhole (which I leave for the engineers), then this might work. Hmm, wouldn't the higher wormhole be pulled towards the lower one due to gravity? Unless some solid structure could stabilize it (again, a mere engineering task), it would take energy to support it.

I do believe that such a device would eventually be possible, but that it wouldn't produce more energy than it used. I suspect the first aliens from another star system who visit us will attempt to sell us this "infinite energy system" for mining rights to the rest of our solar system, and then laugh their [what passes for asses] off.

Robert
 
What would happen to the energy form the "globs" from the sun?Would it get converted into differn't form during transfer or would it still be close to same amount before the transfer?
 

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