Reflectionless Potential Eigentates

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The discussion revolves around the eigenstates of the reflectionless potential, specifically the Pöschl-Teller potential, and their comparison for different values of the parameter λ. Participants explore the implications of using different λ values for bound and unbound states, as well as methods for solving the Schrödinger equation related to these potentials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the bound eigenstates for the reflectionless potential are given by a specific equation involving associated Legendre polynomials and questions whether this holds for unbound states with non-integer λ.
  • Another participant suggests consulting Flügge's work for a complete solution to the problem.
  • A participant expresses difficulty accessing Flügge's text and proposes solving the Schrödinger equation directly to compare eigenstates for λ=1 and λ=1.1.
  • One reply clarifies that Lekner's paper provides insights into the quantization of energy and the conditions for reflectionless states, noting that the equations referenced are for scattering states, not bound states.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on how Lekner determines specific constants in his calculations of eigenstates.
  • A response explains that Lekner uses properties of hypergeometric functions to derive eigenfunctions and discusses the implications of non-integer λ on the reflectionless nature of the potential.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarification provided regarding the determination of constants and the behavior of eigenstates.
  • A later post mentions a comparison of results from Flügge's work and raises a question about discrepancies in matching equations for different values of ν.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and access to resources, leading to some agreement on the need for specific references while also highlighting differing interpretations of the equations and constants involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of eigenstates for non-integer λ and the methods for evaluating constants.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their access to key texts, which may affect their understanding of the topic. There is also mention of the need for careful consideration of the conditions under which the potential is reflectionless, particularly for non-integer values of λ.

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I know that the bound eigenstates for the reflectionless potential (Poschl-Teller potential) is

\Psi_{\lambda,\mu}=P^{\lambda}_{\mu}(tanh(x))

where

P^{\lambda}_{\mu} are the associated Legendre polynomials and \lambda is a positive integer while \mu is an integer able to take on values from \lambda, \lambda-1, ... , 1

Is this the same equation for unbound states. For example, if \lambda=1.1, would I be able to use the top equation or is a different equation be necessary?

I'm attempting to compare the eigenstates for \lambda=1 to \lambda=1.1 as seen on:

http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/EigenstatesForPoeschlTellerPotentials/

Thanks.
 
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Have you tried reading some source ? Problems nr. 38 and 39 of Flügge should give the whole solution.
 
I've looked at Flugge, but, unfortunately Google Books is missing a few crucial pages and my local university library does not carry it. I've requested it via interlibrary loan, but i do not know how long it will take to send to the University.

I've looked at other references, but many of them are too advanced for me.

I'm pretty sure the best way to compare \lambda=1 to \lambda=1.1 would be to solve the Schrödinger equation. What would be the best way to solve that equation (scaling 2m=\hbar=1)? When I solve it in Mathematica or Maple, I get an answer that seems to make sense, but how do I evaluate the constants? According to Reflectionless eigenstates of the sech(x)2 potential by Lekner, he gives the constants for the first three bound states, but does not explain where he got them from (equations 18-20).

Thanks.

(\lambda=1 is shown)
 

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Lekner's paper: http://www.victoria.ac.nz/scps/about/staff/pdf/Reflectionless_eigenstates.pdf

Lekner explains what to do just after his eq.(51): in eq.(3), replace k by iq, where E=-q^2. E is now quantized (and hence so is q) by eq.(51). There is a solution that goes to zero for both x\to-\infty and x\to+\infty only for these values of E.

Eqs.(18-20) are scattering states with positive energy, not bound states with negative energy.

Also, your mathematica result has an error: the first argument of LegendreP and LegendreQ should be j, not 1. Lekner's solution can be expressed in this form for some particular values of C[1] and C[2].

EDIT: I've realized that I'm not sure what you're asking for. Changing \lambda changes the potential, and there are both scattering and bound states for all values of \lambda.
 
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I'll try to explain my question better.

I understand how Lekner calculates the odd and even eigenstates for \nu=0,1,2 from equation 1. Lekner then states that reflectionless energy eigenstates can be formed from the superposition of the odd and even eigenstates. I'm not sure how he managed to determine the three constants, ika, \frac{i[1+(ka)^{2}]}{ka}, and \frac{ika[4+(ka)^{2}]}{ka}.

Thanks.
 
In eqs.(8-17), Lekner uses properties of hypergeometric functions to express the even and odd positive-energy eigenfunctions in terms of elementary functions for \nu=0,1,2. Then he finds the linear combinations that approach e^{ikx} as x\to+\infty; this requirement is how he determines those three constants. Because the potential is reflectionless for integer \nu, this linear combination also approaches e^{ikx} as x\to-\infty.

For non-integer \nu, the potential is not reflectionless. In that case, the best you can do is find a linear combination of even and odd eigenfunctions that approaches e^{ikx} as x\to+\infty, and approaches Ae^{ikx}+Be^{-ikx} as x\to-\infty, for some constants A and B. Conservation of probability flux can be used to show that |A|^2-|B|^2=1.

For non-integer \nu, you will need to find the appropriate asymptotic forms of the hypergeometric functions in order to do this analysis.
 
Thank you so much! That really helps me.
 
I've recently obtained Flugge's "Practical Quantum Mechanics." I've been going through his solution for Problem 39, but I'm having trouble getting equation (39.14) to match up with equations (29.10a-b) in the same graph. I've attached my Maple worksheet. It's interesting that for v=1, the plots match up exactly, but begins to mismatch by v=2.

Any suggestions? Am I missing something important?

Thanks.
 

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