Tension Calculation for a Vibrating Violin String

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a vibrating violin string, given specific parameters such as the string's linear density, length, and the wavelength of the sound produced. The context includes the interaction between the string and the air as a medium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the frequency of sound in air and the frequency of the string, questioning how energy transmission affects these frequencies. There is also discussion about the use of equations relating tension, linear density, and frequency.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between the given quantities, while others are questioning the assumptions regarding frequency consistency between the string and the air. The discussion is active with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding whether the calculated frequency corresponds to the fundamental frequency of the string, raising questions about the nature of the wave behavior at the string-air interface.

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A violinist places her finger so that the vibrating section of a 1.0g/m string has a length of 30cm, then she draws her bow across it. A listener nearby in a 20 degrees celsius room (speed of sound at this temperature in air is 343 m/s) hears a note with a wavelength of 40 cm. What is the tension in the string?


I was having real trouble with this question.

How are we meant to use the frequency of the wave in the air and transpose that information back into the string if we have no way of knowing the frequency/wavelength changes when the string hits the discontinuity of the medium (string-air)?
 
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You are usually given problems which you can do. Look at what you have here: \mu = 10^{-3} \text{kg/m} You are given the speed of sound in air, you are given the wavelength and you are asked to find the tension in the string.

How can you relate these quantities?
 
Hello Greg.

I got the frequency in air to be 857.5 from the equation v = f lambda

Is the frequency of the sound wave in the air the same as the frequency in the string?
If yes, how is it that since some of the energy is transmitted to the the new medium (air in this case) and some transmitted back to the string, is the frequency the same?
 
The frequency doesn't change. Do you have an equation for frequency of standing waves on a string?
 
If i used f = 1/2L Sqrt (Tension/Linear Density) wouldn't I get the fundamental frequency? how are we meant to know if the frequency i calculated is the fundamental frequency?
 

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