Tension in a System: Is My Answer Wrong?

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The discussion revolves around a tension problem involving two blocks, where the original poster compares their calculations to a provided answer. The context includes analyzing forces acting on block B and the setup of the problem, which involves tension and possibly friction.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on block B and question the inclusion of certain elements in the free body diagram (FBD). There is an exploration of whether the original poster's interpretation aligns with the problem's requirements.

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Some participants have pointed out discrepancies in the original poster's diagram compared to the problem statement, suggesting that the two problems are not equivalent. There is an acknowledgment of mistakes made in the interpretation of the problem setup.

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Participants note that the problem statement provided by the original poster differs from the earlier question they referenced, particularly regarding the presence of a pulley and the configuration of the blocks.

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Isn’t this question same concept as the note as I posted ? I found

P = T + F1+F2= 50(0.3)(9.81) + 50(0.3)(9.81) + (50+100)(0.35)(9.81) = 809.3N

But the ans given is 662.2 N ..

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Draw the FBD for block B alone. What are the forces acting on block B? Does T act on block B?
 
gneill said:
Draw the FBD for block B alone. What are the forces acting on block B? Does T act on block B?
gneill said:
Draw the FBD for block B alone. What are the forces acting on block B? Does T act on block B?
 

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The question for which the given answer is 662.2N does not have a pulley nor a rope attached to the right of B. Why did you add those to the diagram?
 
goldfish9776 said:
the question is actually same as the notes that i post , right ?
Actually , i have asked this question earlier...
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...-tension-of-string.820812/page-2#post-5156741
In the first post of this thread, you attached two problem statements as images.
The first one is a copy the question in the earlier thread. This has the two blocks connected via a string which passes around a pulley (not shown) attached to a wall. Another string pulls on the lower block.
The second image shows the top block tied to a wall. Only one string attaches to the lower block, and there is no pulley. You appear to have drawn in a second string, making it look like the first problem. The two problems are different. If you modify it to look like the first problem then of course you will get the wrong answer.
 
haruspex said:
In the first post of this thread, you attached two problem statements as images.
The first one is a copy the question in the earlier thread. This has the two blocks connected via a string which passes around a pulley (not shown) attached to a wall. Another string pulls on the lower block.
The second image shows the top block tied to a wall. Only one string attaches to the lower block, and there is no pulley. You appear to have drawn in a second string, making it look like the first problem. The two problems are different. If you modify it to look like the first problem then of course you will get the wrong answer.
ok , noticed my mistakes
 

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