Tension of a cable as a result of a pulse (wave)?

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The problem involves a ski gondola connected by a steel cable, where a wave pulse is generated upon the gondola's arrival at the terminal. The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of the pulse and the tension in the cable, utilizing the properties of the cable and wave mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster successfully calculated the speed of the pulse using the distance and time. They are now attempting to find the mass of the cable to determine the tension but express uncertainty about the density of steel. Other participants suggest looking up the density in textbooks or online resources.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on where to find the necessary density value. There is an acknowledgment that the density is a known value typically found in textbooks, which may help the original poster proceed with their calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of information regarding the density of steel, which is essential for calculating the mass of the cable. There is an implicit understanding that density values may vary depending on the type of steel used.

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Homework Statement



A ski gondola is connected to the top of a hill by a steel cable of length 620 m and diamter 1.5 cm. As the gondola comes to the end of its run, it bumps into the terminal and sends a wave pulse along the cable. It is observed that it took 16 s for the pulse to return.

(a) What is the speed of the pulse
(b)What is the tension in the cable?

Homework Equations



simple velocity equation: v = d/t
density equation: p = m/v
speed of wave on a cord: v = √[(F)/(m/L)]


The Attempt at a Solution



I was successful with part a of the question. It's just a simple velocity equation: v = 620/16 = 38.75 s.

For the second part, I know I need to find mass, so I could plug it in the speed of wave in a cable equation. I tried to use the simple density equation since I already have information for the cross-sectional part of the cable:
m = pv
m= p (LA)→length times area
m = ?

It seems I don't have enough information to find mass because I don't have p (density)!
 
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You can find the density of steel online. It ranges from 77500 to 80500 kg/m3 depending on alloy
 
LastXdeth said:
It seems I don't have enough information to find mass because I don't have p (density)!
Many physics textbooks have a table of densities for different materials. It would be in the section of the chapter that discusses density. They probably expect you to use the value from such a table -- rather than finding it on the web, which would have some variability since there are actually different types of steel with different densities.
 
Thanks, it never came across my mind that density was a given value! I will check my textbook.
 

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