News Terrorism: Weak vs Strong, Causes & Nuclear Weapons

[MiGUi]

What is terrorism?
This is:

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http://ttd.cache.el-mundo.net/documentos/2004/03/espana/atentados11m/imagenes/atentados03.jpg

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[fourier jr]

Where did you get that list? Its pretty bad - it doesn't differentiate between military actions and terrorism (among other things). If you want to claim that every military action is terrorism, present an argument.

I've seen that list before; it's from the Library of Congress. They've got another list that has all the military interventions since 1798. Here it is, from the US Government Printing Office:
http://www.maxwell.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl30172.pdf

 

[Burnsys]

russ_watters:

Acording to the definition of terrorism by the Usa Gov. :

Terrorism is:
"the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives"

When usa invade another country they decide if it's "Lawful" or not. of course from their point of view they will always be lawful, but they make the rulse.. so it's relative.. they are not lawful to me, and are not lawful to the countrys they are invading to.

So remove the word unlawful and name one usa military action that don't match the definition above...

(Sorry my english, i am from argentina)

 

[studentx]

You heard about Al queda Burnsys? Or did you leave them out of the list deliberately, just like all the other terrorist organisations to make it easier for us to see you have no point?

 

[Burnsys]

of course i remember al queda.. you mean that terrorist organization that the CIA and pakistan trained and created back in the cold war to figth the russians? the same the us suported in bosnia to fight the serbs?

If we are talking about terrorism i think we have to talk of those who comited more acts of terrorism than any ohter.. if you find any terrorist organizations, who hasn't been trained by the cia. and commited more operations that the list i recently post, then tell me... i don't think al-queda has killed more than 1 millon people, just the number us killed ONLY in vietnam..

PD: i was listing only military actions by the us gov, to show they have no competition in terrorism.. they are number 1...

PD2: in case you forget:
Terrorism is: "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives"

 

[omin]

omin, can you clarify/rephrase that?

Terrorism is when an assault is made upon a group of people who directly or indirectly support a government that is exerting an unnecessary entropic force upon the human race. This entropic force causes hunger, disease, world distaster, war, defensive acts of terror, etc. This entropic force usually benefits a small group of individuals in the government, usually the ones responsible for the abject theory of entropy. Entropy is ignorance of balance and progress theories, in terms of diplomacy, development and trade between human groups. Remember the headlines: Intelligence Failure? That's Bush.

Bush Doctrine is Terrorism. It is pure Retard/Criminal Theory.

Sorry, I get a bit hurried and don't check my spelling and grammar. There you go.

 

[Aquamarine]

of course i remember al queda.. you mean that terrorist organization that the CIA and pakistan trained and created back in the cold war to figth the russians? the same the us suported in bosnia to fight the serbs?

If we are talking about terrorism i think we have to talk of those who comited more acts of terrorism than any ohter.. if you find any terrorist organizations, who hasn't been trained by the cia. and commited more operations that the list i recently post, then tell me... i don't think al-queda has killed more than 1 millon people, just the number us killed ONLY in vietnam..

PD: i was listing only military actions by the us gov, to show they have no competition in terrorism.. they are number 1...

PD2: in case you forget:
Terrorism is: "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives"

Don't be ridiculous. Communism is the largest killer in the history of the world.
http://humphrys.humanists.net/communism.html

 

[Prometheus]

Don't be ridiculous. Communism is the largest killer in the history of the world.

I don't understand this. Communism is an idea and a political system. It is an abstract concept. People kill people. Guns kill people. How can you claim that an abstract idea has killed people?

 

[Aquamarine]

I don't understand this. Communism is an idea and a political system. It is an abstract concept. People kill people. Guns kill people. How can you claim that an abstract idea has killed people?

Because Communism doesn't work. But it approves of dictorships and eliminating everything believed to stand in the way of the common good. When the system fails, more obstacles must be eliminated.

If you demand individual people, look no further than to Lenin, Stalin and Mao.

 

[Burnsys]

I think it goes beyond bush... he is a puppet of higer powers. is more. i think that american presidents are pre selected and trained much before elections..

It's not crazy to believe that the most powerfull people of the world, merge together and organize themselves to increase and maintain their power...

This people are those who control the banking system, the media, the most powerfull multinational corporations,Oil , weapons industry. and of course, goverments.

There are some organizations, the ones i think are behind every president usa have..

The Trilateral Commission
http://www.trilateral.org

The Council On Foreing Relations
http://www.cfr.org/

 

[Microburst]

What is terrorism?
This is:

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http://ttd.cache.el-mundo.net/documentos/2004/03/espana/atentados11m/imagenes/atentados03.jpg

http://ttd.cache.el-mundo.net/documentos/2004/03/espana/atentados11m/imagenes/heridostratada.jpg

you forgot this...


http://babykiller.com/ <---!

 

[fourier jr]

There are some organizations, the ones i think are behind every president usa have..

The Council On Foreing Relations
http://www.cfr.org/

The Council was created specifically to plan out US world domination. Find the book Imperial Brain Trust, edited by Shoup/Minter.
"The main problem in the postwar world was whether the U.S. could be self-sufficient and do without the markets and raw materials of the British Empire, Western hemisphere, and Asia. The Council thought that the answer was no and that, therefore, the United States had to enter the war and organize a new world order satisfactory to the United States."
http://www.eco.utexas.edu/faculty/Cleaver/357Lsum_s2_ShoupMinter.html
& yes, "communism" is more of a philosophy or concept; it was individuals who did all the killing. When the US kills 12000000 people over the years, impoverishes many millions more, & overthrows governments nonstop, is it "democracy" that does it, or even that abstract concept "America"??

re: "communism" (meaning what has become of Bolshevism) I don't think anyone would disagree that the Soviet Union, etc was a brutal authoritarian regime, which is why nobody is saying that it was. It's because that obvious. There were many instances though, where the US was doing exactly the same thing the old USSR was doing. Just ask a South Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodian, East Timorese, Guatemalan, Nicaraguan, Grenadan, Cuban, Iranian, Iraqi, Palestinian, Venezuelan, Uruguayan, etc, etc.

re: communism (real communism) is more like libertarian socialism than whatever was running China, USSR, etc way back when.

 

[russ_watters]

russ_watters:

Acording to the definition of terrorism by the Usa Gov. :

Terrorism is:
"the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives"

When usa invade another country they decide if it's "Lawful" or not. of course from their point of view they will always be lawful, but they make the rulse.. so it's relative.. they are not lawful to me, and are not lawful to the countrys they are invading to.

So remove the word unlawful and name one usa military action that don't match the definition above...

Only one? Too easy. How about Iraq, 1991? That was a UN mandate.

Also, United States; 2001 - uh, how is that terrorism? You didn't even read your own list, did you?

Also, you seem to be a little confused about the definition: being unlawful is not the only critereon for it to be terrorism.

Reading your last post though - those are two of the most absurd conspiracy theories out there. Truly rediculous. If you honestly believe those, there really is nothing to discuss - you need help.

 

[tumor]

I think it goes beyond bush... he is a puppet of higer powers. is more. i think that american presidents are pre selected and trained much before elections..

It's not crazy to believe that the most powerfull people of the world, merge together and organize themselves to increase and maintain their power...

This people are those who control the banking system, the media, the most powerfull multinational corporations,Oil , weapons industry. and of course, goverments.

There are some organizations, the ones i think are behind every president usa have..

The Trilateral Commission
http://www.trilateral.org

The Council On Foreing Relations
http://www.cfr.org/

I agree,Bush, Kerry,Clinton,Sharon and the rest of them around the world are puppets,but if we want to change our world for better first we have to start changing ourselfs.What we do on daily basis(eat,shop,believe,learn) can have profound impact for the better.

 

[fourier jr]

Only one? Too easy. How about Iraq, 1991? That was a UN mandate.

Iraq 1991? "It's the first half of 1990. The dismantling of the Berlin wall is being carried out on a daily basis. Euphoria about the end of the cold war and optimism about the beginning of a new era of peace and prosperity are hard to contain. The Bush administration is under pressure to cut the monster military budget and institute a "peace dividend". But George Bush, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, former Texas oil man, and former Director of the CIA, is not about to turn his back on his many cronies in the military-industrial-intelligence complex. He rails against those who would "naively cut the muscle out of our defense posture", and insists that we must take a cautious attitude towards reform in the USSR. In February, it's reported that "the administration and Congress are expecting the most acrimonious hard-fought defense budget battle in recent history"; and in June that "tensions have escalated" between Congress and the Pentagon "as Congress prepares to draft one of the most pivotal defense budgets in the past two decades". A month later, a Senate Armed Services subcommittee votes to cut military manpower by nearly three times more than recommended by the Bush administration ... "The size and direction of the cuts indicate that President Bush is losing his battle on how to manage reductions in military spending."
...
"One day after using Iraq's invasion of Kuwait to help save the high-tech B-2 bomber, senators invoked the crisis again Friday to stave off the mothballing of two World War II-vintage battleships."
...
"The possible beneficiaries" of the crisis, added the Washington Post, "cover the spectrum of companies in the defense industry."
...
Washington pushed a dozen resolutions through the Security Council condemning Iraq, imposing severe economic sanctions, and getting "authorization" to wage war. Only Cuba and Yemen voted against any of them. When Yemen's delegate received some applause for his negative vote on the key use-of-force resolution of 29 November, US Secretary of State Baker, who was presiding, said to his delegation: " I hope he enjoyed that applause, because this will turn out to be the most expensive vote he ever cast." The message was relayed to the Yemenis, and within days, the tiny Middle-East nation suffered a sharp reduction in US
aid.
...
Here's how the LA Times viewed it:
Shortly after Iraq's invasion ... Bush carefully compared Iraq's aggression with the German aggression against Poland that launched World War II. But he stopped short of a personal comparison of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein with Adolf Hitler. That caution went out the window last month, when Bush not only compared Hussein to Hitler but also threatened Nuremberg-style war crime trials. Then, last week, Bush went further, briefly maintaining that the Iraqi leader is worse than Hitler because the Germans never held U.S. citizens as "human shields" at military sites.

After this trivializing of the Holocaust, Bush went on to
warn that any acceptance of uncontrolled aggression "could be
world war tomorrow". Said one of his own officials: "Got to get
his rhetoric under control."
...
"
etc etc
you can read the rest here:
http://members.aol.com/bblum6/iraq2.htm

 

[studentx]

of course i remember al queda.. you mean that terrorist organization that the CIA and pakistan trained and created back in the cold war to figth the russians? the same the us suported in bosnia to fight the serbs?

The CIA has agents that were trained by many different countries. Scratch the US from the list!

 

[Burnsys]

Only one? Too easy. How about Iraq, 1991? That was a UN mandate.

Also, United States; 2001 - uh, how is that terrorism? You didn't even read your own list, did you?

Also, you seem to be a little confused about the definition: being unlawful is not the only critereon for it to be terrorism.

Reading your last post though - those are two of the most absurd conspiracy theories out there. Truly rediculous. If you honestly believe those, there really is nothing to discuss - you need help.

What are the two of the most absurd conspiracy teories?
The trilateral comison and the council on foreing relations?
I am not saying anything they say it all in their oficial websites..

Are you deniing those organizations even exist?

The Trilateral Commission
http://www.trilateral.org

The Council On Foreing Relations
http://www.cfr.org/

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From their Website:

Founded in 1921, the Council on Foreign Relations is an independent, national membership organization and a nonpartisan center for scholars dedicated to producing and disseminating ideas so that individual and corporate members, as well as policymakers, journalists, students, and interested citizens in the United States and other countries, can better understand the world and the foreign policy choices facing the United States and other governments. The Council, which is headquartered in New York with an office in Washington, DC, does this by:

Convening meetings in New York, Washington and in other select American cities where senior government officials, global leaders, and prominent thinkers come together with Council members to debate and discuss the major foreign policy issues of our time;

Conducting a wide-ranging studies program where Council fellows produce articles and books that analyze foreign policy issues and make concrete policy recommendations;

Publishing Foreign Affairs, the preeminent journal covering international affairs and U.S. foreign policy;

Maintaining a diverse membership, including special programs to foster interest and expertise in the next generation of foreign policy leaders;

Sponsoring independent task forces whose reports help set the public foreign policy agenda; and

Providing up-to-date information about the world and U.S. foreign policy on the Council’s website, www.cfr.org.

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How is the Council managed? Who is in charge?
The Council is governed by a standard corporate structure: the Chairman of the 31-member board provides overall direction, the President leads the daily operations.

Peter G. Peterson, Chairman of the Blackstone Group, a private investment bank, is Chairman of the Council. Carla A. Hills, Chair and Chief Executive Officer of Hills & Company, and Robert E. Rubin, a Director and Chairman of the Executive Committee of Citigroup, Inc., are Vice Chairmen. Richard N. Haass, a former senior government official, is President.


Who are the members of the Council? How and why are they selected?The Council's 4,000 members are divided almost equally among New York, Washington D. C. and the rest of the nation. They are leaders in government, business, finance, media, academia and a wide range of nonprofit organizations.

Every candidate for membership must be formally proposed in writing by one member and seconded by a minimum of three other individuals. Letters from members are strongly encouraged. Quality, diversity and balance are the key objectives sought by the Council in the composition of its membership.

The roster of members is listed in the annual report.
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I am not sayng anything they say it all in their web site... Amazing you have never heard of them in the news right? well. they own the news..

Actualy, al this leaders in government, business, finance, media, academia etc, gather together only to drink some tea, and tell some jokes... there is no conspiracy.

 

[Burnsys]

The CIA has agents that were trained by many different countries. Scratch the US from the list!

Yes.. of course.. another example of US interventionism... covert operetions by the cia on sovereign countrys,, coups and overtrow of democraticaly elected goverments...

the entire list i post before ar ALL US interventions in foreing countrys... ONLY US interventions

 

[studentx]

the entire list i post before ar ALL US interventions in foreing countrys... ONLY US interventions

Doh. I just don't get why you post it. You defeat your own point by making it blindingly clear your information is biased.

 

[Burnsys]

Doh. I just don't get why you post it. You defeat your own point by making it blindingly clear your information is biased.

It's not biased.. it is oficial information, and what point? that the usa has commited more acts of terrorism that any actual "Terrorist Organization". That is my point-

Burnsys... FAIR AND BALANCED! hahaha

 

[studentx]

Burnsys... FAIR AND BALANCED! hahaha

 

[russ_watters]

fourier jr, I don't know that I've seen such little relevance take so many words to say before. But if you feel like making an argument to support the point, go for it.

Burnsys, I'm not denying that they exist, the conspiracy theory is in that they control the world. (of course, that would beg the question - if they did control the world, are they fighting each other for that control?)

Also, you haven't presented an argument yet...

 

[fourier jr]

fourier jr, I don't know that I've seen such little relevance take so many words to say before.

1. the US manipulated the UN
2. the real reasons for the Iraq ataq #1 were Bush's popularity (or lack of...) and the impending military budget cuts.

was that a just war or what?


re: CFR I don't think that they control the world, but they are definitely the ones who have been planning out US world domination for the last 80 years. Here's the review/synopsis of the definitive study on the Council on Foreign Relations again:
http://www.eco.utexas.edu/faculty/Cleaver/357Lsum_s2_ShoupMinter.html

having actually read that book I can verify that pretty much all the stuff about the post-WWII world order came from the CFR's own War & Peace Studies. (see the section of the synopsis on Shaping a New World Order) One single article had about 200 references to Council documents or studies.

 

[Microburst]

russ_watters: I think creating circumstance for terrorism is also terrorism. Middle east , no doubt is the most abused and manipulated region of the world.

 

[russ_watters]

1. the US manipulated the UN
2. the real reasons for the Iraq ataq #1 were Bush's popularity (or lack of...) and the impending military budget cuts.

was that a just war or what?

Assume for the sake of argument both are true. That doesn't necessarily lead to your conclusion (Iraq did, afterall, invade their neighbor), but assume that is true as well. What does any of that have to do with terrorism? Answer: nothing.

Microburst: since its our existence that is causing this terrorism (they have said it quite explicitly), that makes every victim also a terrorist. That's some pretty twisted logic.

Both of you are having trouble dealing with the fact that words have objective definitions. You simply don't want to use the word as it is defined because of what it means (which is a pretty ironic problem).

 

[Microburst]

http://joevialls.altermedia.info/myahudi/rape.html <-- have a look!

 

[Burnsys]

fourier jr, I don't know that I've seen such little relevance take so many words to say before. But if you feel like making an argument to support the point, go for it.

Burnsys, I'm not denying that they exist, the conspiracy theory is in that they control the world. (of course, that would beg the question - if they did control the world, are they fighting each other for that control?)

Also, you haven't presented an argument yet...

I will be quick. it's late. are 2 am..

CFR/Trilateral Commission Members
Members of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission dominate key positions in America's government, military, industries, media outlets and educational foundations and institutions. The following is a partial list of current CFR members and the positions of influence they hold in society. The CFR's membership is limited to 3,000, and there are only 325 Trilateral Commission members.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/TRI-CFR.HTM



This are articles from their oficial website...
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March 2, 1999:
http://www.cfr.org/pub3077/press_release/what_does_the_future_hold_for_china_and_the_world.php
What Does the Future Hold for China and the World?

From the findings of these studies flow the following policy prescriptions:

The United States must establish a set of priorities that contributes to PRC integration into the world community and serves as a benchmark for the relationship. These priorities include: enhancing mutual security, developing economic relations that benefit both partners more equally, and encouraging the rule of law.
The United States and China must pursue the most promising areas of cooperation aggressively, such as preservation of stability on the Korean peninsula, environmental protection, energy conservation, and improvement of China's monetary and financial system.
The United States must offer China a seat at the table when rules that affect its interests are decided; this is an important element in China's commitment to fulfilling its international agreements.
The United States must have the support of Europe and Asia in establishing a set of norms that will govern China and America's interaction in world affairs; the United States can lead, but it cannot dictate.
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(Remember how many journalist and CEOs in the media are from the CFR )

President Bush's First 100 Days: For Your News Coverage, Experts from the
Council on Foreign Relations

http://www.cfr.org/pub5406/press_release/president_bushs_first_100_days_for_your_news_coverage_experts_from_the_council_on_foreign_relations.php

April 27, 2001 - President George W. Bush's 100th day in office is this Monday, April 30, 2001. To help journalists cover the first 100 days of Bush Administration's foreign policy, the Council on Foreign Relations is pleased to offer interviews with some of the world's leading foreign policy experts. We encourage you to call our experts directly; we list them below with their Council on Foreign Relations phone numbers. Please identify interviewees as being with the Council on Foreign Relations
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Quotes:
By controlling government through the CFR, the power brokers are able to control America’s economy, politics, law, education, and day-to-day subsistence. …The CFR is an extension of the old-world imperialistic British oligarchy." – Dr. James W. Wardner, author of the book The Planned Destruction of America


"The Council on Foreign Relations [is] dedicated to one-world government… [and]…for converting the United States from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of one-world dictatorship." – Congressman John R. Rarick


The most powerful clique in these elitist groups [Ed. Note: Such as the CFR and the Trilateral Commission] have one objective in common – they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. A second clique of international bankers in the CFR…comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government. – Chester Ward, Rear Admiral (U.S. Navy, retired; former CFR member)

"The purpose of the Trilateral Commission is to engineer an enduring partnership among the ruling classes of North America, Western Europe, and Japan – thus trilateral.
(From their web site)


"The Trilateral Commission is international... (and)...is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. …What the Trilaterals truly intend is the creation of a worldwide economic power superior to the political government of the nation-states involved. As managers and creators of the system they will rule the world." – Senator Barry Goldwater
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and of course they figth for power too..
but of course.. everyone has secrets... they have some "Codes"
and how many choices do you have for this elections?
bush or kerry.. our of 120 millons people... that's what i call DEMOCRACY!

 

[russ_watters]

Can you tell me what progress, specifically, has been made toward a one-world government recently?

 

[Burnsys]

Can you tell me what progress, specifically, has been made toward a one-world government recently?

World Bank,
United Nations
International Monetary Found
World Trade Organization

From their WebSite:
NEW TASK FORCE: The Council has launched an independent task force on the future of North America to examine regional integration since the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement 10 years ago. News release


Global Economic Governance at a Crossroads: Replacing the G-7 With the G-20, by Colin I. Bradford, Jr. and Johannes F. Lin, The Brookings Institution (April 2004)
Over the last few years as EMEs [emerging market economies] have played an increasing role in the world economy, G-7/8 meetings have become an inadequate means to address global economic challenges...

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The PNAC, Proyect for the New American Century :
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

(From their web site:)
The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership

if you enter their web site.. go to "About Pnac" and take a look at the staff...
Two of the staff are CFR Members..

KAGAN ROBERT W,CFR '92,,,
He is a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a contributing editor at the Weekly Standard, a columnist for the Washington Post, and the author of the best-selling book Of Paradise and Power: America and Europe in the New World Order. (From PNAC website)

JACKSON BRUCE P,CFR '85,
From 1979 to 1990, Bruce Jackson served in the United States Army as a Military Intelligence Officer. From 1986 to 1990, he served in the Office of the Secretary of Defense in a variety of policy positions pertaining to nuclear forces and arms control. Upon leaving the Department of Defense in 1990, Mr. Jackson joined Lehman Brothers, an investment bank in New York, where he was a strategist in the firm's proprietary trading operations. Between 1993 and 2002, Mr. Jackson was Vice President for Strategy and Planning at Lockheed Martin Corporation.
(From PNAC website)
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If you take a look at the membership list of the Council on Foreing Relations, you will see that 80% of the privates corporations who are part of the cft, they are all around the world... For Example:

Citigroup, They have banks in every country in the world... just imagine the amount of money they have in power... i think it's an inimaginable number...
IBM, At&t, Coca Cola,Chrysler,Dow Chemical. Xerox, Gillete, Johnson & Johnson, Pepsico, etc etc..those are all multinational corporations who operate in almost every country in the world.

I think that invading irak and Expanding "democracy and freedom" in the middle east can be called progress...
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maybe you want to hear it directly from Ex President Bush Sr. or from the CFR.
Thake a look at this video:
http://www.freepressinternational.com/bush_cfr.html
(They say it... not me...)

Do the word "Globalization" say somenthing to you? as you can imagine.. A world government isn't something you can do in a couple of days.. It takes time... and it can't be done in one day, couse people will not tolerate it.. so it have to be done smooth, slow... by the way. they control the media too..

hope you will read all this i am posting, it take me time to do it... and don't answer me with 1 line post...

 

[russ_watters]

...and don't answer me with 1 line post...

How about 1 word?: Rubbish. I won't be discussing this further. Its more absurdity than I can stomach at the moment and vastly off topic.

 

[Aquamarine]

Here are a partial list of conspiracy theories:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

Karl Popper claimed that science is essentially defined as a set of falsifiable theories; theories and claims which are not falsifiable are thus not science. Critics of conspiracy theories sometimes argue that many of them are not falsifiable and so cannot be scientific. This accusation is often accurate, and is a necessary consequence of the logical structure of certain kinds of conspiracy theories. These take the form of uncircumscribed existential statements, alleging the existence of some action or object without specifying the place or time at which it can be observed. Failure to observe the phenomenon can then always be the result of looking in the wrong place or looking at the wrong time — that is, having been duped by the conspiracy. This makes impossible any demonstration that the conspiracy does not exist.

 

[Burnsys]

haven't you seen the video? September 11 1991, President Bush talking about to bring The New World Order... They are saying it.. in fron of your faces.. but you don't want to see..all the text an quotes i posted are not in my imagination. they aren't fiction neither... They are from THEIR WEB SITES.. THEY ARE TELLING THIS: not me... but of course, the lie and the conspiracy is so big.. that it's imposible for you to se... i bet you believe in the "Fair and Balanced" in fox news channel...

Now i ask somenthing.,.. What do you think that people of the CFR is doinng? tell me what you think... what do they talk when they meet? if they are not planing global dominationt.. tell me what do you think they are doing..? I WANT YOUR OPINION!

 

[studentx]

How about 1 word?: Rubbish. I won't be discussing this further. Its more absurdity than I can stomach at the moment and vastly off topic.

I second that.

 

[Smurf]

Now i ask somenthing.,.. What do you think that people of the CFR is doinng? tell me what you think... what do they talk when they meet? if they are not planing global dominationt..

pfft, I've been planning world domination since 6 years old.

Ok, honestly, they don't need to plan world domination, CFR, Trilateral and Bilderberg already own the world between them.

 

[Microburst]

They 're Pinky & the Brain. Yes, Pinky & the Brain.
One is a genius, the other's other insane.
They 're labratory mice. Their genes have been sliced.

They 're Pinky, they 're Pinky & the Brain Brain Brain Brain...

Before this night is done their plan will be unfurled.
By the dawning of the sun they 'll take over the world.

They 're Pinky, they 're Pinky & the Brain Brain Brain Brain...

Their twilight campaign is easy to explain.
To prove their mousey worth they 'll overthrough the earth.

They 're Pinky, they 're Pinky & the Brain Brain Brain Brain...

Narf !