Texas Governer warns of secession

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of Texas Governor Rick Perry's comments regarding the potential for Texas to secede from the United States. Participants explore the political motivations behind such statements, the historical context of secession, and the reactions from various political groups. The conversation touches on themes of ideology, political identity, and the concept of state rights versus federal authority.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that Perry's comments reflect a broader trend among Republicans who may prioritize their ideology over national unity.
  • Others suggest that the idea of secession is not limited to Republicans, proposing that liberals have also expressed similar sentiments in the past.
  • A participant argues that the notion of secession is unlikely to gain significant support in Texas, citing polling data that suggests a majority would oppose it.
  • There is a discussion about the media's portrayal of Perry's comments, with some participants claiming that he was misquoted or misrepresented.
  • Some participants question the validity of the idea that secession would lead to civil war, citing historical examples where territories have left the union without conflict.
  • One participant humorously suggests that a division based on ideological lines could lead to a "win/win" scenario for both conservatives and liberals.
  • Another participant highlights the inflammatory nature of some statements made in the discussion, advocating for a more nuanced interpretation of the claims regarding secession.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of Perry's comments or the likelihood of secession. Multiple competing views remain regarding the motivations behind such statements and the potential consequences of secession.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference polling data and historical examples to support their claims, but there is no agreement on the interpretation of these data or their relevance to the current discussion. The conversation also reveals differing definitions of political terms and the implications of secession.

  • #31
The Texas governor is insane. I have no other way to put it.
 
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  • #32
Oscar Wilde said:
I expected nothing less from you, Ivan. First, a job well-done on attempting to bash the Palins. I'm just surprised Fox News did not make an appearence in this one, how disappointing.

Let's move on to what is actually relevant here. There is always extreme sentiment. I can't see how the two groups you mention here differ significantly. How do you measure the levels of frustration of these two groups? I would also like you to show Bush's "reckless disregard for Constitutional Law" during his two terms, just for kicks and giggles of course.

Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, Guantanamo, the list goes on and on.
 

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