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The BEAST's 50 Most Loathsome Americans of 2007

  1. Dec 30, 2007 #1
    the list has the charges against the person, the evidence against them, and their sentence. check out what they have to say about people like YOU (especially), Bill O'Reilly, John Hagee, Ann Coulter, the founding fathers, Duane Chapman or any of the current presidential candidates:
    http://www.buffalobeast.com/122/50mostloathsome2007.html
     
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  3. Dec 30, 2007 #2
    The Bush/Cheney caricature creeps me out.
     
  4. Dec 30, 2007 #3
    LOL. number 9 is easily the best one.

    funny and so true.
     
  5. Dec 31, 2007 #4

    BobG

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    Wait a minute. You isn't more loathsome than Anne Coulter, Michael Vick, or Albert Gonzalez. In fact, Michael Chertoff isn't more loathsome than those three.

    And Lou Dobbs surely has to rate as more loathsome than any TV host that still has a program. The guy has slowly descended into near insanity.
     
  6. Dec 31, 2007 #5

    Ivan Seeking

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    Why do you say that? He is out to save the middle class, which indeed needs saving.

    He goes over the edge at times but his aim is dead-on. And people who want to sell-out this country call him a racist amoung other things, but he's not. You can always tell when someone speaks the truth: He is accused of saying everything except what he actually said.

    Dobbs has done more to help get illegal immigration under control than anyone. He is a great American fighting for working-class Americans, every day.

    He was also one of two lightnings rods that created the storm of controversy that stopped Bush from turning control of our ports over to Dubai.
     
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  7. Dec 31, 2007 #6
    Ha ha, fourier jr. where in the hell did you find "The BEAST". It's so far left-wing its nearly terrorist sanctioned!
     
  8. Jan 1, 2008 #7
    I'm confused Ivan. I thought that you hated the American people. Why do you want to save them? Also, I thought you wanted to become an immigrant yourself. Do you really think you can make immigrants suffer here and they will accept you when you go there?

    Lou Dobbs reports on the downside of immigrants taking jobs as producers, but ignores the upside of them providing jobs as consumers.
     
  9. Jan 1, 2008 #8

    Gokul43201

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    Did O'Reilly lose his show?
     
  10. Jan 1, 2008 #9

    Ivan Seeking

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    Perhaps you can show me where I said that. I have said that the American people who have supported this illegal regime [Bush] have failed their own system and betrayed American ideals.

    I am interested in saving what soldiers die for - the Constitution.

    A legal immigrant, yes, and only because I now fear our government and what has been happening in this country - support of torture, an illegal war where the perpetrators go unpunished and remain in power, preemptive strikes, secret prisons, spying on US citizens without legal review, prisoners held without legal recourse, the trashing of the Geneva Conventions, and now even preemptive arrests, for example. These are literally examples of what defined the enemy not that long ago. I don't want to end up an old man living in a totalitarian state. If most Americans no longer value the Constitution, then America is dead.

    I welcome legal immigrants with open arms.

    Lou Dobbs has nothing against legal immigrants. He also supports an effective migrant worker policy. What is at stake is control of the border, which is the primary job of the federal government - yet another failure of the system because of people like Bush selling-out this country.
     
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  11. Jan 1, 2008 #10

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    I wouldn't say that it's necessarily left-wing, since it targets some who are considered left-wing, albeit very few. On the other hand, it's interesting that Michael Moore is not on the list.

    Is there no one these guys dislike, or conversely is there anyone these guys like?

    I wonder if they are into self-loathing.
     
  12. Jan 1, 2008 #11
    I was surprised that Barack Obama didn't make the list. He's said that he would attack Pakistan's nuclear facilities if a non-US-friendly regime ever took over. He'd even invade Pakistan without their permission if the Taliban ever spread there from Afghanistan. Ron Paul didn't make the list either, he's said the US should withdraw from the UN, the WTO, he'd abolish major federal departments like education & commerce, has said he'd let market forces sort out the situation in Darfur (ie at some point it would become uneconomical)....

    edit: here's my exhibit A against Ron Paul
    "Though I'm not sure just now what that details of Darfur's Market-solution should look like just now, I'm way too busy, I do think it's clear the janjaweed needs to be incentivized somehow to stop its genocide. But, if the invisible hand decrees that the Darfurians being slaughtered should be wiped out, it's probably for the best."

    & Obama:
    "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."
     
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  13. Jan 1, 2008 #12
    Astronuc, if you read any of the other articles on the site, you'll see that it does infact state that it is left-wing.
     
  14. Jan 1, 2008 #13

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    Also Sean Hannity!
     
  15. Jan 1, 2008 #14
    You're right, you never used the word hate. My bad. But I should be excused. The hatred fairly drips.

    That whole thing about legal vs illegal immigration is a distinction without a difference. If the only problem with illegal immigrants is that they are illegal, then make them legal. You know, like NORML says about marijuana. It is especially hypocritical to make this distinction when you plan to take advantage of it. If there is a problem with illegal immigrants other than their illegality, what is it? If Americans are betrayers and foreigners are undesirables, what's left? Where will you go?
     
  16. Jan 1, 2008 #15

    Astronuc

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    Ick! I'd rather not read the rest of the site, but please show me where the authors or the site indicates that they/it are left-wing.

    It's mostly a vulgar rant, and it's not something I'll go back and read over and over. Once is more than enough.

    So if these guys are going after H. Clinton, Pelosi and Reid, then does that infer that they are right of left?


    Isn't there someone in the middle willing to step up are represent the people of the US rather than one of two political parties? Don't we deserve better than this? Someone? Anyone?

    I've got $12 in my pocket, and some change. It's yours if you register as a candidate for President in 2008. :biggrin:
     
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    It infers that they are so far to the left that Clinton is to their right. Essentially, their biggest complaint about those two is that they don't have the guts to be further to the left.
     
  19. Jan 1, 2008 #18

    Astronuc

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    The *******.htm in binzing's link doesn't help.

    I'll take your word for it. It's not a site that I would care to go back to. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Jan 1, 2008 #19
    Yeah, its kind of (actually really) abrasive.
     
  21. Jan 1, 2008 #20

    Astronuc

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    Slimey and abrasive. :yuck:
     
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