The Differences Between Physicists and Engineers

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The discussion centers on the perceived differences between engineers and physicists, sparked by a book's assertion that engineers are less capable of deep thinking compared to physicists. Participants argue that both fields are interdependent, with each having unique strengths and weaknesses. Engineers tend to focus on practical applications and efficiency, while physicists often delve into theoretical concepts. There is a consensus that both disciplines require a solid understanding of mathematics, though their approaches differ; engineers may prioritize empirical solutions, while physicists engage more with abstract theories. The conversation also highlights the overlap between the two fields, with many professionals transitioning between them, and emphasizes that generalizations about either group can be misleading. Ultimately, both engineers and physicists contribute significantly to society, and their collaboration is essential for advancements in technology and science.
  • #61
arildno said:
Just an advice:
Start wearing diapers if you think you are about to make a breakthrough in superconductor physics..

No, then I don't have to worry about that since I got out of that field 3 years ago.

Zz.
 
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  • #62
ZapperZ said:
No, then I don't have to worry about that since I got out of that field 3 years ago.

Zz.
Not your subconscious, though. It is still mulling over the issues..
 
  • #63
arildno said:
Not your subconscious, though. It is still mulling over the issues..

Oh, my subconscious is already wearing a diaper. So no leak is possible from "him".

Now my evil twin Skippy, he's another matter...

Zz.
 
  • #64
ZapperZ said:
Oh, my subconscious is already wearing a diaper. So no leak is possible from "him".

Now my evil twin Skippy, he's another matter...

Zz.
:smile: :smile:
 
  • #65
FredGarvin said:
Ex-squeeze me? I think most of us have exceptional handwriting. Of course, you could be talking about cursive handwriting and in that case mine looks like I grab a pencil with a club hand and have a serious case of the shakes. My printing is pretty good though.
Yes, that's it...why is it that engineers can't write in cursive? But when it comes to printing, I think most scientists have pretty meticulous writing; maybe not when jotting out a letter to a friend, but you know you need to print legibly and keep everything tidy or you risk losing that decimal point somewhere and someone could die! :eek:
 
  • #66
hhh79bigo said:
Engineering is a branch of physics.

I don't like this one bit. Engineering is as much about resource management, finance, and project management as it is about fluid mechanics and stress analysis. Sure, we're all technical people, and we even use some of the same equations and computer programmes sometimes, but the ends and means of engineering and physics are entirely different. Naturally, the disciplines do cross over frequently, and both rely on each others' presence, but I think they're very distinct fields.


My handwriting is absolutely attrocious, which is why I word-process everything which needs reading by someone else. It doesn't help that I'm a cuddiwifter (and lots of other engineers are too), but I've tried to improve it to no avail.

I knew an architect who had the most beautiful handwriting; he'd modeled it on the style you're supposed to use on technical drawings.
 
  • #67
hhh79bigo said:
Engineering is a branch of physics. The physics look in most cases at the models of universal problems where as the engineer puts that model in the real world perception.

Both are intellectually the same subjects.

Both will go into different details of different topics, and both can rely on each other to be able to do what the other cant

As brewnog mentioned, this is a very inane opinion.

To say such things, is to say that chemistry is a brach of physics '...because it is QM practically used on chemicals!' No, Richard Feynman was wrong. Being a master at physics doesn't make him impervious to mistakes.

The only thing sciences have in common is that experimentation is used to verify would-be theories in each discipline.
 
  • #68
Moonbear said:
Yes, that's it...why is it that engineers can't write in cursive? But when it comes to printing, I think most scientists have pretty meticulous writing; maybe not when jotting out a letter to a friend, but you know you need to print legibly and keep everything tidy or you risk losing that decimal point somewhere and someone could die! :eek:

Bah.

My handwriting is extremely small, but very intricate (not too articulate though) and precise. I can fit 9 of my lines (probably more now if I have a super-sharp pencil) onto one college-ruled line. If an advanced civilization stumbles onto one of my notes, they will think that they found the Rosetta Stone or something. :biggrin:

My question is... is this a strange genetic defect ingrained into my personality, or am I just odd? My grandfather also writes like I do, he's also the sciency-type. :-p

Oh, it is just as small now, if not even smaller. :rolleyes:

edit: my linky no worky.
 
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  • #69
motai said:
Bah.

My handwriting is extremely small, but very intricate (not too articulate though) and precise. I can fit 9 of my lines (probably more now if I have a super-sharp pencil) onto one college-ruled line. If an advanced civilization stumbles onto one of my notes, they will think that they found the Rosetta Stone or something. :biggrin:

My question is... is this a strange genetic defect ingrained into my personality, or am I just odd? My grandfather also writes like I do, he's also the sciency-type. :-p

Oh, it is just as small now, if not even smaller. :rolleyes:

edit: my linky no worky.

So, then are you a engineer? Because otherwise, they would be no point talking about your handwriting.
 
  • #70
My handwriting is just..uhum..as great :D
 
  • #71
FredGarvin said:
Ask me what time it is and I'll tell you. Ask a physicist what time it is and they'll tell you how to build a clock.

I see it this way: The average person tells you what time it is, the engineer tells you how to build a clock, the physicist tells you about GR, and the philosopher asks if time really exists.
 
  • #72
Ivan Seeking said:
I see it this way: The average person tells you what time it is, the engineer tells you how to build a clock, the physicist tells you about GR, and the philosopher asks if time really exists.
Reminds me of something we used to say about consultants..

Consultant: Person who borrows your watch to tell you what time it is.
 
  • #73
Math Is Hard said:
Reminds me of something we used to say about consultants..

Consultant: Person who borrows your watch to tell you what time it is.

Thats esp funny since my latest project contract requires my customer to supply me with all of the required programming software. :biggrin:
 
  • #74
motai said:
Bah.

My handwriting is extremely small, but very intricate (not too articulate though) and precise. I can fit 9 of my lines (probably more now if I have a super-sharp pencil) onto one college-ruled line. If an advanced civilization stumbles onto one of my notes, they will think that they found the Rosetta Stone or something. :biggrin:

My question is... is this a strange genetic defect ingrained into my personality, or am I just odd? My grandfather also writes like I do, he's also the sciency-type. :-p

Oh, it is just as small now, if not even smaller. :rolleyes:

edit: my linky no worky.

My handwriting was very tiny when I was still in high school, but then my old, half-blind professors complained they couldn't read my handwriting without a magnifying glass (my post-doc mentor really appreciated it if you typed everything in 14 or 16 point font :bugeye:), so I started writing bigger, but then my handwriting also got sloppier. :frown:
 
  • #75
Moonbear said:
My handwriting was very tiny when I was still in high school, but then my old, half-blind professors complained they couldn't read my handwriting without a magnifying glass (my post-doc mentor really appreciated it if you typed everything in 14 or 16 point font :bugeye:), so I started writing bigger, but then my handwriting also got sloppier. :frown:

I am probably going to have to do the same... so much for the "Ancient-Tome" style mass gatherings of information onto a single page. I can write much larger, but the writing usually gets slanted, uneven, and sloppier than when I write small (then again, one must write small when writing at those sizes, elsewise nothing could be read).

Perhaps I could supplement a living by working part time in the art industry, writing people's names on grains of rice. :rolleyes:
 
  • #76
Scientist Make The World The Way It Is...engineers Make The World As It Was Never Been Before!
 
  • #77
Phycicsist Make The World The Way It Is...engineers Make The World As It Has Never Been Before...!
 
  • #78
Ivan Seeking said:
Not at all, but I think this may depend on your definition of religion.

But sure enough we can't discuss(or even ask about) everyone's definition of religion in this site, can we? Isn't it a kind of dogma that we can't discuss religion everywhere? :rolleyes:
 
  • #79
Lisa! said:
But sure enough we can't discuss(or even ask about) everyone's definition of religion in this site, can we? Isn't it a kind of dogma that we can't discuss religion everywhere? :rolleyes:

Nope. Discussions of religion has soften ended in justa hurling of insultd between diffreent members, that it HAD to be banned from discussion.
 
  • #80
young e. said:
Phycicsist Make The World The Way It Is...engineers Make The World As It Has Never Been Before...!
Engineers make the world - physicists explain it.
 
  • #81
russ_watters said:
Engineers make the world - physicists explain it.
Oh, so that's why physics is considered so difficult - they have to try to explain what engineers have done! :smile: :smile: (Sorry, you walked right into that one.)
 
  • #82
I want to rewrite my imaginary post:

russ_watters said:
Engineers make the world - physicists explain it.
Physicists make a world too. Imaginary world of course! :rolleyes:
 
  • #83
We all know that a super-intelligent race of beings known as white mice made the world. Engineers rearrange it.
 
  • #84
Ivan Seeking said:
We all know that a super-intelligent race of beings known as white mice made the world. Engineers rearrange it.

rearrange it? well you need to destroy it first and then rearrange it!
 
  • #85
Can u live now without engineers? No..
 
  • #86
Engineers and physicists need each other.
 
  • #87
russ_watters said:
Engineers make the world - physicists explain it.
:confused: very strange observation. You are wrong though, it is : physicists invent and engineers implement...hence, the only true engineer is a physicist. Or is it : the only true physicist is an engineer ? arrgg, what do i care :zzz:

regards
marlon
 
  • #88
marlon said:
physicists invent and engineers implement

Exactly!


marlon said:
...hence, the only true engineer is a physicist. Or is it : the only true physicist is an engineer ? arrgg, what do i care :zzz:

regards
marlon

path of the Physicist is obviously longer but on an earlier stage coincides with the path of Engineer!
 
  • #89
Scientists in general don't invent...They observe and try to explain..

Engineers can invent something that is an application for this discovery or observation..

In both cases imagination is needed, a certain way of seeing things is needed, a method is needed..

It differs, for engineers u've to be practical, a physicist can have all the time in the world...It's a character and it depends, there r no rules for that kinda of thing..
 
  • #90
Nomy-the wanderer said:
Scientists in general don't invent...They observe and try to explain..
Isn't the explaining about inventing new models to fit experimental data, hmmm ? Duuhh :rolleyes:

Engineers can invent something that is an application for this discovery or observation..
How on Earth can you build a practical implementation of something new if you are not able to fully caracterize it ? Where do you think this caracterization come from ? Devine intervention ?
for engineers u've to be practical,

Ever heard of an experimental physicist ?

a physicist can have all the time in the world...
if you are a physicist yourself i want to ask you : where do you work ?
if you are no physicist i want to say to you : you obviously do not have any idea about what a physicist is and what he/she does

marlon
 

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