The differences between plasma and ionized gas

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The discussion centers on the differences between plasma and ionized gas, exploring definitions, characteristics, and examples of each. Participants examine the conditions under which plasma exists and the role of ionization.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that ionized gas is a specific instance of plasma, citing the interior of the sun as another example of plasma.
  • One participant references a definition from Wikipedia, explaining that ionization is necessary for plasma to exist and discussing the concept of plasma density and degree of ionization.
  • A participant questions whether a gas in a closed conducting container could be ionized by manipulating charge without relying on temperature effects.
  • Another participant expresses interest in the question posed about ionization in a closed container, indicating a desire for further exploration of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that ionized gas is a type of plasma, but there is ongoing debate regarding the conditions necessary for ionization and the implications of manipulating charge in a closed system.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of plasma and ionized gas may not be fully articulated, and the discussion includes unresolved questions about the effects of temperature and charge manipulation on ionization.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in plasma physics, ionization processes, and the characteristics of gases in different states may find this discussion relevant.

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what are the differences between plasma and ionized gas?
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Ionized gas is one example of a plasma. The interior of the sun is another example.
 
from Wikipedia:

For plasma to exist, ionization is necessary. The term "plasma density" by itself usually refers to the "electron density", that is, the number of free electrons per unit volume. The degree of ionization of a plasma is the proportion of atoms that have lost or gained electrons, and is controlled mostly by the temperature. Even a partially ionized gas in which as little as 1% of the particles are ionized can have the characteristics of a plasma (i.e., response to magnetic fields and high electrical conductivity). The degree of ionization, α, is defined as α = ni/(ni + na) where ni is the number density of ions and na is the number density of neutral atoms. The electron density is related to this by the average charge state <Z> of the ions through ne = <Z> ni where ne is the number density of electrons.
 
Couldn't a gas inside a closed conducting container be ionized by adding or removing charge from the container (and the enclosed gas) without requiring temperature related effects?
 
interesting question by rcgldr , i too would love to hear the answer:)
 

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