The distribution of normal matter precisely determines gravity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between normal matter and gravity, particularly in the context of dark matter. Participants explore implications for galaxy formation and evolution, referencing specific research and questioning the validity of existing models.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the claim that normal matter alone can explain gravitational effects, suggesting that this challenges the current understanding of dark matter.
  • One participant notes that the tight correlation between normal matter and gravity is difficult to reconcile with dark matter as it is currently understood.
  • Another participant references the Bullet Cluster as an example where gravity does not correlate with normal matter, implying limitations in the proposed model.
  • Several participants share links to relevant papers, indicating ongoing interest in the topic and the availability of research materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the role of dark matter and the implications of the research discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific interpretations of gravitational phenomena and the correlation between different types of matter, which may depend on definitions and assumptions that are not fully explored in the discussion.

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I am unable to find a paper on this only the abstract, but it seems to be saying that there is no Dark Matter?

The tightness of this relation is difficult to understand in terms of dark matter as it's currently understood, the researchers said.

It also challenges the current understanding of galaxy formation and evolution, in which many random processes such as galaxy mergers and interactions, inflows and outflows of gas, star formation and supernovas, occur at the same time.

I think that there has been several papers like this one all proved to have systematic errors.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/02/170217012502.htm
 
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wolram said:
Thank you Dr Claude.
You're welcome! :smile:
 
wolram said:
I am unable to find a paper on this only the abstract, but it seems to be saying that there is no Dark Matter?

The tightness of this relation is difficult to understand in terms of dark matter as it's currently understood, the researchers said.
Eh, I doubt that the tightness of the relation is all that difficult to understand, given that dark matter and normal matter are pretty strongly correlated.

More importantly, there are some known physical systems, such as the Bullet Cluster, where the gravity most certainly is not correlated with the normal matter.
 

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