The energy released from antimatter annihilation -- New uses?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the potential uses of energy released from antimatter annihilation, particularly in research contexts. Participants explore whether this energy could be utilized similarly to light in gravitational wave studies and consider its implications for understanding fundamental mysteries of the universe.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the energy from antimatter annihilation could lead to new insights into the universe, akin to the use of light in gravitational wave studies.
  • Others challenge this view, questioning the practicality and efficiency of using antimatter energy given the high energy costs associated with its production.
  • It is noted that the radiation and particles produced from annihilation are not unique and can be generated through other means, with existing applications in medical imaging (e.g., PET scans).
  • A participant suggests that access to antimatter could help address the matter-antimatter asymmetry problem and explore quantum interference phenomena.
  • There are claims regarding the relationship between energy, strings in string theory, and the origins of the universe, which some participants find incoherent or lacking in clarity.
  • Several participants request specific theoretical calculations or references to support claims about the mysteries of the universe related to antimatter annihilation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the utility and implications of antimatter energy, with no consensus reached on its potential applications or theoretical significance.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the nature of energy and its relation to physical systems, as well as the feasibility of generating and utilizing antimatter for research purposes. The conversation also touches on the definitions and terminology related to existing technologies like PET scans.

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The pure energy released from antimatter annihilation can there be any use of this clean energy for research purposes like the use of light in LIGWO for gravitational waves study can we use it efficiently like light in LIGWO I think we can and it could lead us to reveal mysteries of universe
The pure energy released from antimatter annihilation can there be any use of this clean energy for research purposes like the use of light in LIGWO for gravitational waves study can we use it efficiently like light in LIGWO I think we can and it could lead us to reveal mysteries of universe
 
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Vamsi9955 said:
I think we can and it could lead us to reveal mysteries of universe
Do you have any specific reasoning for this claim? I.e. any theoretical calculations that show some specific mystery of the universe as an outcome to the annihilation reaction? Since this is an "A" level thread (meaning post-graduate math and physics) you should be able to post your detailed mathematical derivation and cite your references clearly.

By the way, are you aware that this reaction is used routinely in medical imaging? So it is already quite well studied. What specific quantitative aspect of this reaction do you believe has any "mysteries of universe" type surprises remaining?
 
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Vamsi9955 said:
this clean energy
What would be particularly "clean" about the energy, bearing in mind the large Energy requirement for generating tiny quantities of Antimatter? Regular Electricity out of the socket is only as clean as the Energy used for its generation.
 
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There is nothing special about the radiation and other particles produced in matter-antimatter annihilation and it is much easier to produce via other methods. As there is no useful amount of antimatter in nature you have to produce the antimatter first, which takes much more energy than you get out from the annihilation.

There is an application for electron-positron annihilation: PET scans.

(it is called LIGO, by the way)
 
mfb said:
There is nothing special about the radiation and other particles produced in matter-antimatter annihilation and it is much easier to produce via other methods. As there is no useful amount of antimatter in nature you have to produce the antimatter first, which takes much more energy than you get out from the annihilation.

There is an application for electron-positron annihilation: PET scans.

(it is called LIGO, by the way)
Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGWO & LIGO where W is not taken
 
Dale said:
Do you have any specific reasoning for this claim? I.e. any theoretical calculations that show some specific mystery of the universe as an outcome to the annihilation reaction? Since this is an "A" level thread (meaning post-graduate math and physics) you should be able to post your detailed mathematical derivation and cite your references clearly.

By the way, are you aware that this reaction is used routinely in medical imaging? So it is already quite well studied. What specific quantitative aspect of this reaction do you believe has any "mysteries of universe" type surprises remaining?
Thanks Sir Dale tera ma ma aur tera gand me danda dale hum
 
Dale said:
Do you have any specific reasoning for this claim? I.e. any theoretical calculations that show some specific mystery of the universe as an outcome to the annihilation reaction? Since this is an "A" level thread (meaning post-graduate math and physics) you should be able to post your detailed mathematical derivation and cite your references clearly.

By the way, are you aware that this reaction is used routinely in medical imaging? So it is already quite well studied. What specific quantitative aspect of this reaction do you believe has any "mysteries of universe" type surprises remaining?
But what is this type of medical imaging called please tell me sir I you please tell me I will be very thankful to you and tera ma ma gand me danda Dale Hum
 
Potentially, having ready access to antimatter to experiment with could help solve the matter-antimatter asymmetry problem, possibly by examination of the particles that are created from annihilation, is that the type of thing you are asking, @Vamsi9955?

Apart from that, quantum interference in antimatter was recently demonstrated, which suggests that positrons at least behave in the same way as matter does in this regard. Having more antimatter to work with could extend this to other particles and perhaps identify mechanisms or situations where antimatter does not behave like matter.
 
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Yes and
Tghu Verd said:
Potentially, having ready access to antimatter to experiment with could help solve the matter-antimatter asymmetry problem, possibly by examination of the particles that are created from annihilation, is that the type of thing you are asking, @Vamsi9955?

Apart from that, quantum interference in antimatter was recently demonstrated, which suggests that positrons at least behave in the same way as matter does in this regard. Having more antimatter to work with could extend this to other particles and perhaps identify mechanisms or situations where antimatter does not behave like matter.
Yes and can we use the energy from the process and what are the particles produced from the process
 
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I am taking about the energy from which the strings are formed(hypothetical strings of String Theory) and universe which is made out of from singularity at big bang
 
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Vamsi9955 said:
Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGWO & LIGO where W is not taken
It is LIGO. "LIGWO" simply doesn't exist.
Vamsi9955 said:
But what is this type of medical imaging called please tell me sir I you please tell me I will be very thankful to you and tera ma ma gand me danda Dale Hum
English please. The PET scans I mentioned in my post.
Vamsi9955 said:
Yes and can we use the energy from the process and what are the particles produced from the process
We can, it is just completely pointless. It is like spending $100,000,000 on a machine that prints a single 1 dollar bill and then destroys itself. The particles produced in matter-antimatter annihilations are mainly photons and pions.
Vamsi9955 said:
I am taking about the energy from which the strings are formed(hypothetical strings of String Theory) and universe which is made out of from singularity at big bang
This is just a meaningless collection of buzzwords.
 
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mfb said:
This is just a meaningless
I read a thread in physicsforum site which made me think of the strings made out of pure energy and it is also stated that the universe is formed out of pure energy from bigbang explosion is it not true
 
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mfb said:
No.
What do you mean by saying no
 
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Vamsi9955 said:
What do you mean by saying no
It doesn't make sense and I fear it is too incoherent to go into details - because I don't see how you could get the impression this could work.
 
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mfb said:
It doesn't make sense and I fear it is too incoherent to go into details - because I don't see how you could get the impression this could work.
Thanks sir for your suggestions
 
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Vamsi9955 said:
strings made out of pure energy and it is also stated that the universe is formed out of pure energy
There is no such thing as pure energy. Energy is a property of a system. It never exists on its own, but is always necessarily associated with a physical system.
 
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