The expected value of a Geometric Series

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The expected value of a geometric distribution is defined as μ = 1/p, where p represents the probability of success. The discussion revolves around deriving this formula using the definition of expected value, specifically μ_x = E(x) = Σ x · p · (1-p)^(x-1). Participants emphasize the importance of correctly evaluating the summation and suggest differentiating the series to simplify the process. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in handling series and the correct application of differentiation to derive the expected value.

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  • Understanding of geometric distributions and their properties
  • Familiarity with the concept of expected value in probability
  • Knowledge of summation notation and series evaluation
  • Basic calculus, specifically differentiation techniques
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I'm supposed to prove that in a geometric distribution, the expected value,

<br /> \mu = \frac{1}{p}<br />

without the use of moment generating functions (whatever that is)

I start off with the very definition of the expected value.

<br /> \mu_x = E(x) = \sum x \cdot p \cdot (1-p)^{x-1}<br />

<br /> \mu_x = p \sum x \cdot (1-p)^{x-1}<br />

<br /> \mu_x = p \sum x \cdot (1-p)^x \cdot (1-p)^{-1}<br />

<br /> \mu_x = \frac{p}{1-p} \sum x \cdot (1-p)^x<br />

Now I get stuck because I don't know how to evaluate the summation. Can anyone help me out?

btw, x starts from 1 to n
 
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can you sum y^r as r goes from 1 to n. what if you differentiate both sides?
 
I am assuming that y^r is (1-p)^x. If I would convert the summation into its series and differentiate both sides, what would be the derivative of \mu_x?
 
erm, what? i indicated to you how to sum a certain kind of series, the series you wanted to sum. I'm not doing anything with differentiating mu_x.
 
err... sorry, my bad. So, when you said differentiate both sides I thought both sides of the equation. What you really mean is that in order to evaluate the summation you need to differentiate, am I understanding it right?
 
you know a formula :

S(n) = sum 1 to n of y^r

that is anequation in y, diff wrt to y and you'll find a formula for a sum that looks a lot like the one you want to sum in your problem. you've pulled that factor of 1/(1-p) out when you shouldn't have: it'll make it more transparent when you put it back in.
 

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