The first failure of relativity?

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The discussion centers on the paper titled "The first failure of relativity," which introduces a new cosmological model called "spatial condensation" (SC). This model claims to explain the universe without dark energy and acceleration, utilizing SN1a data. Participants express skepticism about the validity of SC, questioning its assumptions, particularly the concept of discrete time. The conversation highlights the ongoing debate regarding the implications of cosmological acceleration as a potential failure of General Relativity (GR) and critiques the necessity of introducing concepts like Inflation, Dark Matter, and Dark Energy.

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The first failure of relativity?

http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0501176 The first failure of relativity.
A new cosmological model "spacial condensation".
This paper uses SN1a data to explain a universe with no dark energy
and no acceleration.
 
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Some astronomers have some very weird ideas that are sometimes correct. However I balk at his assumption of a discrete time.
 
The dynamic that is fundamental to the model is called “spatial condensation (SC)” and consists of the very small, higher dimensional cells of epispace condensing to 4-D cells to cause the 4-D ball ,and thus our 3-D universe, to expand.

Ah! Now I see!

The principle of astrophysics and cosmology is to apply physical laws tested in the laboratory, or at least in near solar system space and apply them to the universe at large.
So have we tested "spatial condensation" and seen "epispace balls"?

And why is cosmological acceleration "the first failure of relativity"?
You could view the necessity for GR to include Inflation, Dark Matter and Dark Energy as proofs that these things exist, or that they are modern examples of "adding epicycles" that is they are all failures of GR, but for acceleration/DE to be the first failure seems to be a bit discriminatory to me!

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Yes it looks like out and out crackpottery.
 
Pretty weird stuff, but, Leffert has been pedaling this 'revelation' for about 10 years. Looks to me like the unsubstantiated indictment of relativity was just a little CPR. If this thing catches on, will it be called spatial condensation cosmology [SCC]?
 
Heh heh - I think those initials are already taken by another theory. But if this one is ten years old, maybe it has precedence? :wink:
 
I think 'SCC' is alreday taken :D

edited to add: beaten to the punchline by 10 mins :eek:
 
I think Garth's been working on his theory since 1982, so there's a definite line of seniority here.
 
Im happy that everyone takes this paper lightly, it seemed to
me to be one that will end up in a corner gathering dust. but
who knows.
 

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