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News The glory that is the Texas justice system

  1. Jun 6, 2013 #1

    WannabeNewton

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    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Jury-acquits-escort-shooter-4581027.php
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/ezekiel-gilbert-acquitted-murder-prostitute_n_3398225.html

    The story speaks for itself. I don't even know what to say. I don't know if I should be infuriated or amused by the fact that the adversarial system can still be advertised by some as a means of justice. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people.
     
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  3. Jun 6, 2013 #2

    nsaspook

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    Brutal! Note to self, don't steal from people in Texas at night.
     
  4. Jun 6, 2013 #3

    BobG

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    Didn't he read the fine print? The fee is solely for companionship. Whatever sex may (or may not) take place is just the whims of two consenting adults.

    If sex were included in the fee, it would be prostitution and prostitution is illegal!
     
  5. Jun 6, 2013 #4

    WannabeNewton

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    It just blows my mind that he got away Scott free for paralyzing an innocent woman, badly enough to eventually lead to her death shortly after.
     
  6. Jun 6, 2013 #5

    Evo

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    So, he shot her during an illegal act, he's guilty. WTH?

    Only in Texas.
     
  7. Jun 6, 2013 #6

    Drakkith

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    Not like this is something unique. People fall through loopholes in laws all the time.
    Stop knocking on my state. :tongue2:
     
  8. Jun 6, 2013 #7

    WannabeNewton

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    I think we're at a point where it's physically impossible not to knock on Texas :wink:
    Sometimes its fun to point and laugh but for a story like this it is just infuriating.
     
  9. Jun 6, 2013 #8

    Office_Shredder

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    Please tell me this is going to be appealed?
     
  10. Jun 6, 2013 #9

    nsaspook

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    How? He was found innocent of the criminal act.
     
  11. Jun 6, 2013 #10

    WannabeNewton

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    It's not criminal in Texas. Common sense and morality don't apply to the law nsaspook cmon man! You know that!
     
  12. Jun 6, 2013 #11

    russ_watters

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    So it is legal to shoot someone who is stealing from you? A little harsh IMO, but only a little. Personally, I think we coddle criminals too much.
     
  13. Jun 6, 2013 #12

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    Honestly I don't think the 'shooting the burglar' part is as bad as using that law as a way of justifying the shooting of the escort (which isn't even the same thing as a prostitute) when she refused sex...and being found not guilty. That is pretty insane.
     
  14. Jun 6, 2013 #13

    russ_watters

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    She took money and provided no services; How is that not theft? Don't make this into something it isn't. The law is probably overly broad, but it isn't crazy.

    The prosecution's argument was basically that its ok to steal from someone if they are also doing something illegal. That should never fly (and I don't think it ever does).
     
  15. Jun 7, 2013 #14

    BobG

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    Actually, it might be closer to a situation where you bought a defective lawn mower from the home and garden store and the store refused to give you your money back. The fact that the escort was presumed to be selling an illegal product probably had a lot to do with the lack of sympathy for her.
     
  16. Jun 7, 2013 #15

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    Just to elaborate, the state cannot appeal. It's in our constitution, the double jeopardy clause of the fifth amendment.

    What could but won't happen is that the pimp could sue for wrongful death or the federal government could try him for civil rights violations. Neither will happen because, as BobG just mentioned, there's not much sympathy for women in the sex trade. There arguably should be as most women don't enter that line of business willingly, but there isn't.
     
  17. Jun 7, 2013 #16

    Ryan_m_b

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    This is horrible, just absolutely horrible. How on Earth can a ridiculous law about deadly force being acceptable at night be applied to this situation? This man murdered a woman for not having sex with him, how can anyone think he was justified?
     
  18. Jun 7, 2013 #17

    MarneMath

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    But it's ok to kill someone. So basically, if gang banger # 1 organizes a drug deal with gang banger #2, and #2 takes the drugs and walk away, #1 has the right to use deadly force to get his drug back? Seriously -_-.
     
  19. Jun 7, 2013 #18

    Ryan_m_b

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    She did provide services, she acted as an escort. He then wanted more which she was fully entitled to refuse.
     
  20. Jun 7, 2013 #19

    BobG

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    Actually, it's not just limited to theft.

    Don't spray paint or TP people's houses in Texas at night, either. Presumably, it would be illegal to shoot someone that was spray painting your house during the day time.
     
  21. Jun 7, 2013 #20

    nsaspook

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    Being a Texas native I understand the mindset. People don't take kindly to low down night crawling scum.

    Hey that guy took my lawn gnome, stop him!
     
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