The Greats in Math: Texts to Read & Pre-requisites

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The discussion revolves around creating a reading list of significant mathematical texts for undergraduate students, focusing on both modern works and classical texts by renowned mathematicians such as Euclid and Gauss. Participants share their opinions on various texts, suggest additional readings, and discuss the prerequisites for understanding these works.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant lists several texts they are considering, including works by Euclid, Gauss, and various modern authors across different mathematical fields.
  • Another participant comments that Anton and Rorres' text is easy and similar in style to Stewart's Calculus.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the combination of Gauss and Velleman on the same list, suggesting that if one can read Gauss, Velleman may not be necessary, and vice versa.
  • There are concerns raised about the purpose of the thread, with some suggesting that rather than compiling a list, the focus should be on actually reading and engaging with the material.
  • One participant recommends starting with Euclid or Gauss but later withdraws this recommendation, suggesting these texts may be inaccessible to the original poster.
  • Another participant mentions they chose Spivak over Stewart for a deeper understanding of mathematics.
  • A suggestion is made to start with Munkres for topology, noted as difficult but rewarding.
  • One participant highlights Spivak's Differential Geometry series as a valuable resource for understanding differential geometry.

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Participants exhibit a range of opinions on the value of compiling a reading list versus simply starting to read. There is no consensus on which texts are essential, and some participants challenge the appropriateness of certain combinations of texts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to selecting and engaging with mathematical literature.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing views on the prerequisites for reading certain texts, indicating a lack of clarity on the necessary background knowledge for engaging with the recommended works.

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"The Greats" - and more.

[Edit: I have likely posted this in the wrong forum - any Mods are welcome to move it to a more apt location, apologies]

I'm forming a reading list (Undergrad) for myself comprising of modern texts and "classics" by those such as Euclid and Euler.

Advice often offered to Maths students is "read the greats" - so, suggest which texts constitute work by the Greats and should be read by students. That is, texts which are reasonably applicable today and offer wonderful insight to the respective subject.


I have only two of the aforementioned on my list thus far;


Euclid - Elements (All thirteen)

Gauss - Disquisitiones Arithmeticae



What other works by Greats should i have? And what are the opinions on the two listed above?



Ontop of;


General:

The Princeton Companion To Mathematics

Calculus:

Introduction to Calculus and Analysis - Courant
Calculus - Spivak
Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value Problems - Boyce & DiPrima

and Apostol's texts (but at £100+ each they can wait)

Algebra:

Elementary Linear Algebra: Applications Version - Anton & Rorres
Elementary Linear Algebra with Applications - Kollman & Hill

Pure Maths/ Numb Theory:

How to Prove It: A Structured Approach - Daniel J. Velleman (Author)
Concise Introduction to Pure Mathematics - Liebeck

Topology:

Introduction to Topology - Mendelson
First Concepts of Topology - W.G. Chinn (Author), N.E. Steenrod (Author)
Introduction to Topology and Modern Analysis - Simmons

Probability/Statistics:

A Modern Introduction to Probability and Statistics: Understanding Why and How - F.M. Dekking (Author), et al.



I only have a few opinions on any of these texts, i am here for more insight and any other suggestions. Indeed, warning me off of any texts is welcome also.

Oh, and also, for anyone suggesting/advocating texts - would it be possible for you to indiciate the pre-requisites for reading said text?

Thanks.


P.S. - I have already read through a lot of Mathwonks thread and taken a few suggestions from it ("who wants to be a . . ").
 
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Anton and Rorres is kind of easy and likes to hold your hand. It's kind of like Stewart's Calculus in style.
 


it is strange to see gauss and velleman on the same list. i.e. if you can read gauss you do not need velleman, and conversely if you need velleman, you cannot read gauss or euclid.

and who do you expect to render a valid opinion on books like those by gauss and euclid? if the verdict of hundreds or thousands of years does not convince you, who here can?

i.e. if your goal is to learn some math just start reading and quit making lists.
 


mathwonk said:
it is strange to see gauss and velleman on the same list. i.e. if you can read gauss you do not need velleman, and conversely if you need velleman, you cannot read gauss or euclid.

and who do you expect to render a valid opinion on books like those by gauss and euclid? if the verdict of hundreds or thousands of years does not convince you, who here can?

i.e. if your goal is to learn some math just start reading and quit making lists.


Start reading what? It seems the purpose of my post has passed you by. Try again.
 


I don't see the point of this thread. You said it yourself that you took most of these books from another thread. Instead of listing a bunch of "great" books, pick one up and actually read it.

A lot of people seem to think that they have to get all the "right" books. They spend so much time finding these "right" books for a collection they think is really admirable. The fact of the matter is, for a person who really cares about learning math, there is no difference between Apostol and Spivak, or Stewart and Spivak. There are plenty of resources out there for people who want to learn calculus or another subject. There is a time for finding those resources when you hit a roadblock, but first of you should pick up ONE book and start doing math.
 


i thought it was rather obvious i was recommending you start with euclid or gauss, but if you need to read velleman, i guess that inference passed you by. after your last post, I withdraw my recommendation of gauss and euclid, as they would probably be inaccessible to you.
 


I bought Spivak specifically because Stewart is not on par with it and i want to learn math.. but i get the point you are trying to make
 


Do what I was advised to in the other thread - start with Munkres. Difficult but rewarding.
 


Spivak's Differential Geometry series. Not the little softcover, but the huge anthology (A comperhensive introduction to differential geometry) is very useful if you want to get a handle on Diff. Geo.
 

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