What Happens When a Street Urchin Walks Into the Higgs Boson Analogy?

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The discussion centers on the Higgs Boson analogy used to explain mass generation through particle interactions with the Higgs field. Participants compare the interactions of particles with the Higgs field to social dynamics at a party, where a famous person experiences high interaction (high mass) while a street urchin is ignored (potentially low or negative mass). The conversation raises questions about the rejection of certain particles by the Higgs field and explores the implications for dark matter and anti-matter. Key points include the distinction between dissipative interactions and the nature of the Higgs field's influence on mass.

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  • Understanding of the Higgs Boson and its role in particle physics
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  • Basic comprehension of dark matter and anti-matter theories
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i was thinking about the Higgs Boson analogy that was put forward to help describe how it works/interacts to produce mass, of a very famous person walking into a party, everyone gathers round impedes progress, high interaction with Higgs field and particles therefore high mass, and then a less famous person walks through the same party fewer people come to talk to him, less impediment to his journey, low interaction with Higgs field and particles therefore low mass. What happens if a street urchin walks into the analogy, everyone at the party immediately shuns him and ignores him trying to pretend he's not there and eventually a waiter will come up to him to 'show him the door' ie the urchin gets rejected by the Higgs field and particles. But on most high status dinner functions there are bouncers on the door to stop such intrusions ie the urchin get repulsed from the Higgs field similar a electrostatic repulsion

All particles interact with the Higgs field and particles varying amounts leading the various mass of everything through the Universe, but surely some particles or matter will be rejected or repulsed by the Higgs field or particles?

if so is it the waiter or the bouncer that does the rejecting? and what is the waiter/bouncer?

and also one final point is there a possible link between this and anti or dark matter, matter that gets rejected by Higgs and has an either an undefined mass or a negative mass

ps I am not sure what the prefix of this should be so i just picked the middle one
 
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Sebastien said:
i was thinking about the Higgs Boson analogy that was put forward to help describe how it works/interacts to produce mass, of a very famous person walking into a party, everyone gathers round impedes progress, high interaction with Higgs field and particles therefore high mass, and then a less famous person walks through the same party fewer people come to talk to him, less impediment to his journey, low interaction with Higgs field and particles therefore low mass. What happens if a street urchin walks into the analogy, everyone at the party immediately shuns him and ignores him trying to pretend he's not there and eventually a waiter will come up to him to 'show him the door' ie the urchin gets rejected by the Higgs field and particles. But on most high status dinner functions there are bouncers on the door to stop such intrusions ie the urchin get repulsed from the Higgs field similar a electrostatic repulsion

All particles interact with the Higgs field and particles varying amounts leading the various mass of everything through the Universe, but surely some particles or matter will be rejected or repulsed by the Higgs field or particles?

if so is it the waiter or the bouncer that does the rejecting? and what is the waiter/bouncer?

and also one final point is there a possible link between this and anti or dark matter, matter that gets rejected by Higgs and has an either an undefined mass or a negative mass

ps I am not sure what the prefix of this should be so i just picked the middle one

Maybe you might want to start by reading some of the misconception about the Higgs, especially on "...All particles interact with the Higgs field and particles varying amounts leading the various mass of everything... " :

http://today.duke.edu/2012/11/higgsmisconceptions

In addition, while that analogy is often used, it is also rather inaccurate. The type of interaction that you described, i.e. something bouncing or interacting like that, is a dissipative interaction, i.e. it loses energy without any external agent. This is not true for the Higgs field.

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If not already stated, to answer the first question, photons for example has zero mass meaning it either doesn't interact or get influenced by the Higgs Field. Down below it provides a quick link to a video about the Higgs boson.

 

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