The Higgs Mass and the Many worlds interpretation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of the observed mass of the Higgs boson on the Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics and its relationship with other theories such as supersymmetry and multiverse interpretations. Participants explore whether the Higgs mass challenges the validity of these interpretations and clarify distinctions between them.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the Higgs boson mass suggests the Many Worlds interpretation is incorrect, noting that the mass falls between predictions from supersymmetry and multiverse interpretations.
  • Another participant asserts that the predictions of the Many Worlds interpretation are equivalent to standard quantum mechanics and sees no refutation from the Higgs mass.
  • A later reply states that there is no way to differentiate between standard quantum mechanics and the Many Worlds interpretation based solely on formalism.
  • Participants discuss specific predicted Higgs masses: 140 GeV for the multiverse interpretation and 115 GeV for supersymmetry, compared to the observed value of 125 GeV.
  • Some participants clarify that the multiverse theory and Many Worlds interpretation are different, expressing surprise at the differing predictions.
  • One participant reflects on a documentary about the Higgs discovery, suggesting they may have misunderstood the relationship between the theories.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the Higgs mass for the Many Worlds interpretation and multiverse theories. There is no consensus on whether the observed mass challenges these interpretations or if they are fundamentally different.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of clarity regarding the definitions and predictions associated with the Many Worlds interpretation and multiverse theories, as well as the implications of the Higgs boson mass.

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I have a question about the Many worlds interpretation. Does the observed mass of the Higgs boson suggest that the many worlds interpretation is incorrect, as the mass falls smack in the middle of the predicted values of both supersymmetry and multiverse interpretations of the standard model of particle physics. I'm in no way surprised that reality threw this swerveball but am I misunderstanding the point here? Am I confusing multiverse with many-worlds?
 
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The predictions of the many-world's (also known as many universe's) interpretation is equivalent to standard Quantum Mechanics. I haven't seen any refutation of QM from the Higgs mass.
 
juzzy said:
I have a question about the Many worlds interpretation. Does the observed mass of the Higgs boson suggest that the many worlds interpretation is incorrect,

No.

There is no way to tell the difference between standard QM using just the formalism and MW. MW, like most interpretations, has deliberately been cooked up to be like that.

Thanks
Bill
 
StevieTNZ said:
The predictions of the many-world's (also known as many universe's) interpretation is equivalent to standard Quantum Mechanics. I haven't seen any refutation of QM from the Higgs mass.

No I haven't heard anything seriously refuting it either, however, the multiverse interpretation in particle physics (which I was assuming is just the same thing as Many-worlds in QM) predicts a Higgs Mass of 140 GeV. The Supersymmetry interpretation predicts 115 GeV. The observed value was 125 GeV.

I am just scratching my head now as are most proffessors I would imagine.
 
juzzy said:
however, the multiverse interpretation in particle physics (which I was assuming is just the same thing as Many-worlds in QM) predicts a Higgs Mass of 140 GeV. The Supersymmetry interpretation predicts 115 GeV. The observed value was 125 GeV.

They are different ie the Multiverse theory is different to MW. First I have heard of those different predictions.

Thanks
Bill
 
bhobba said:
They are different ie the Multiverse theory is different to MW. First I have heard of those different predictions.

Thanks
Bill

I was trying to remember where I heard it. It was a documentary which was about the Higgs discovery, I think it was called Particle fever. Good movie, gives a lot of insight. It may well be that I misunderstood or misheard. I should watch it again. I do recommend it though.
 
juzzy said:
I was trying to remember where I heard it. It was a documentary which was about the Higgs discovery, I think it was called Particle fever. Good movie, gives a lot of insight. It may well be that I misunderstood or misheard. I should watch it again. I do recommend it though.

My question was about many-worlds, though as you say Bill, they are not quite the same thing, so I guess it's not relevant.

Thanks
 

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