The limit of sqrt(x) as x goes to 0

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the limit of the square root function, specifically as x approaches 0. Participants explore the implications of one-sided limits, the definition of limits, and the behavior of the square root function in both real and complex contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the limit of sqrt(x) as x approaches 0 from the left, suggesting that it approaches 0*i in the complex plane, while from the right it approaches 0.
  • Another participant asserts that regardless of the approach, the limit is 0, emphasizing that 0*i equals 0.
  • A participant admits uncertainty regarding the formal definition of a limit but seeks confirmation about their understanding of the graphical interpretation.
  • One participant provides a formal definition of a limit, arguing that since the square root function is not defined for negative numbers, the left-hand limit is irrelevant.
  • Another participant states that sqrt(x) is continuous at 0, thus concluding that the limit as x approaches 0 is 0, using a specific epsilon-delta argument.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of one-sided limits, with a participant clarifying that only the right-hand limit matters for real-valued functions.
  • A related question about the definition of the "<" relation on complex numbers is raised, leading to a clarification that it is not defined in a way that makes complex numbers an ordered field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of one-sided limits and the interpretation of the square root function in real versus complex contexts. There is no consensus on the implications of these interpretations for the limit as x approaches 0.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ambiguity surrounding the definition of limits in complex analysis and the implications of one-sided limits for functions not defined over certain domains.

vsage
My graphing calculator says this is 0, but I don't really know how obvious that answer is. My problem is that it's my understanding that in order for a limit to exist, then the one sided limit from either side of the point in question must converge to the same value. What exactly is is the limit of sqrt(x) from 0^-?

If the square root function was plotted in the x-y plane, and then the complex z plane was plotted perpendicular to this plane, then the square root function would shoot off into the x-z plane for negative values of x. The limit from the negative side of 0 is then clearly toward 0*i, while the limit from the positive side is toward 0. Can the limit be interpreted as existing, using this logic? It's kind of a simple question but I hadn't really thought that I needed to question it before until now.
 
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Do you know the exact definition of a limit? Also, 0*i = 0, so what's your point there? Whether you regard the square-root function as a function of the complex numbers (in which case you have to look at a particular branch) or a function of the positive reals, the limit at 0 is 0.
 
AKG said:
Do you know the exact definition of a limit?.

I couldn't define it if you asked me, to be honest. I know some general things about limits, and I mentioned what I thought proved the existence of a limit, but no, not a definition. I'm aware that 0*i is zero, but the graphical interpretation is what threw me. I couldn't explain to you what it was, but I just needed confirmation on something as stupid. Everyone has those little random stumbling blocks, and this is my one :wink:
 
For your knowledge, a real-valued function f with domain D has a limit L at the point a in D iff:

(\forall \epsilon &gt; 0)(\exists \delta &gt; 0)(\forall x \in D)(|x-a| &lt; \delta \Rightarrow |f(x) - L| &lt; \epsilon)

What this means, roughly, is that for every x IN THE DOMAIN D near a, the value of x is near L. Since negative numbers are not in the domain of the square-root function when its defined on the non-negative reals, the question "how does the square root function approach from the left" is irrelevant.
 
One way to look at it.
f(x) = sqrt(x) is continuous at 0, hence lim x->0 sqrt(x) = sqrt(0) = 0.

Or using the definition of a limit, we need to show that for all e > 0 there is some d > 0 such that if |x - 0| < d, then |sqrt(x) - 0| < e. Choose d = e^2, then for all e > 0 if |x| < d, then |sqrt(x)| < sqrt(d) = sqrt(e^2) = e and thus lim x->0 sqrt(x) = 0.
 
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vsage said:
it's my understanding that in order for a limit to exist, then the one sided limit from either side of the point in question must converge to the same value.

Your understanding is not exactly right. Since, as a real valued function, sqrt(x) is not defined for x< 0, only the limit from the right matters. If you are thinking of sqrt(x) as a complex valued function, then there is no problem.
 
Quick related question: how is the < relation defined on C? Is it based on the length of the hypotenus from 0,0 to your given number (in which case it would only be a partial order)?
 
It's not defined on C. It's generally implied that when someone says \epsilon &gt; 0, they mean \epsilon \in \mathbb{R}.
 
It is not possible to define "<" on the complex numbers in a way that makes C an "ordered field". Of course, the absolute value of a complex number, |z|, is a real number- that's why we always have |f(z)-f(z_0)|&lt; \epsilon and |z- z_0|&lt; \delta.
 

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