The long awaited F theory book finally set out

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The discussion revolves around a newly released book on F-theory, touching on its content, format, and the author's approach. Participants share their thoughts on the book's length, writing style, and related products found on Amazon, as well as the author's background.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disappointment at the book's relatively short length of 200 pages, suggesting it should be more extensive.
  • There are comments on the cost of the book, with some hoping for high-quality printing materials like vellum.
  • One participant notes that the book is surprisingly well written, contrasting it with other advanced texts that tend to be terse.
  • Another participant mentions their preference for encyclopedic texts over shorter ones that require additional context.
  • Some participants discuss the oddity of the Amazon "Products Related to this Item," linking it to the use of machine learning in F-theory and the nature of theoretical physics.
  • There is a humorous exchange about the meanings of "F" in F-theory, with suggestions ranging from "father" to "f*ck."
  • A participant shares that the book is based on the author's dissertation, which is available as a PDF on his website for those hesitant to purchase it.

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Participants generally express mixed feelings about the book's length and quality, with some appreciating its writing style while others prefer more comprehensive texts. The discussion includes humor and speculation about related products and terminology, indicating a lack of consensus on certain points.

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Some comments reflect personal preferences for book formats and styles, while others highlight the evolving nature of theoretical physics and its connections to modern technology, such as machine learning.

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Not cheap either. I hope it is at least printed on vellum.
 
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ohwilleke said:
Not cheap either. I hope it is at least printed on vellum.
What is the vellum may I ask?
I see it's an electronic sort of type of book.

I much prefer the old paper book, you may call me a classic bloke!
 
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What is the vellum may I ask?
Lamb skin. Usually used for diplomas, original versions of treaties and constitutions, certificates, royal proclamations, medieval histories intended to last thousands of years, Dead Sea scrolls, etc.
 
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It's surprisingly well written. With books this advanced there is a tendency to be very terse, almost Bourbaki, accounts. The author of this book however provides a good deal of explanation and motivation I found.
 
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Great to hear! Maybe I can convince my local library to buy it.
 
As an aside, did you notice the Amazon "Products Related to this Item?" An odd collection.

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gmax137 said:
As an aside, did you notice the Amazon "Products Related to this Item?" An odd collection.

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Not so strange if you think about it:

"Applied data science": it's now common for people to use machine learning to search through sections of the string landscape for vacua of interest. Indeed, the author of the F-theory book himself now works as a data scientist.

"Paper models": F-theory phenomenology requires Calabi-Yau four-folds, and paper models often require four folds (or more).

"Inventive toys": making simplified toy models is common in physics and F-theory is no exception, e.g. here they use machine learning to make a toy model from their four-fold.

"Fashion": we all know that theoretical physics is full of fads and fashions. (What do you think F stands for?)

"Strip canoe": for exploring where the landscape turns into the swampland.

But I agree that linking this to a work "for beginners" is rather odd.
 
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Kolmo said:
It's surprisingly well written. With books this advanced there is a tendency to be very terse, almost Bourbaki, accounts. The author of this book however provides a good deal of explanation and motivation I found.
I much prefer an encyclopedic book, than a short book which I need to add quite a lot to it by myself.

I bought the book, I'll read it in the future; interesting read that's for sure.
 
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mitchell porter said:
Not so strange if you think about it:

"Applied data science": it's now common for people to use machine learning to search through sections of the string landscape for vacua of interest. Indeed, the author of the F-theory book himself now works as a data scientist.

"Paper models": F-theory phenomenology requires Calabi-Yau four-folds, and paper models often require four folds (or more).

"Inventive toys": making simplified toy models is common in physics and F-theory is no exception, e.g. here they use machine learning to make a toy model from their four-fold.

"Fashion": we all know that theoretical physics is full of fads and fashions. (What do you think F stands for?)

"Strip canoe": for exploring where the landscape turns into the swampland.

But I agree that linking this to a work "for beginners" is rather odd.
F stands for "father" "f*ck" etc, just like M theory stands for "Mother" "Mystery".
Together we have MF theory, you can second guess what this stands for... :oldbiggrin:
 
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For anyone curious about the book, but not enough to spend $100. The book was Jurke's dissertation. He makes a pdf copy available on his website https://benjaminjurke.com

It's at the bottom of the Academia & Research page under the Theses section.
 

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