The Observations of the Dark Flow

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The discussion centers around the concept of "dark flow," a phenomenon related to the motion of galaxies beyond the observable universe. Participants explore the validity of original observations, the existence of theories explaining dark flow, and the implications for the field of physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the original observations of dark flow have been disproven or if the phenomenon is a false observation, noting the lack of information on the topic.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty, stating that while dark flow has not been proven false, there is no viable theory to explain it, suggesting it could potentially be a misinterpretation.
  • There is a humorous suggestion that the term "dark" may be a misleading label, implying that renaming concepts could reduce confusion in the field.
  • A participant references a previous thread on the topic, indicating that there may be ongoing discussions elsewhere.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the validity of dark flow observations and the existence of explanatory theories. The discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the status of dark flow observations and the lack of a clear theoretical framework, indicating that assumptions and definitions may be critical to understanding the topic.

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I came across this article from 2008,

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/8...ugging-galaxies-beyond-the-universes-horizon/

I have three questions:

1) Has it been shown as of 2011 that the original observations were wrong and that the Dark Flow as a whole is a false observation (as it would explain the incredible lack of information on the topic)?

2) If not, has this question been resolved as of 2011?

3) Is there at least an untested theory that seems to adequately explain these observations?

If the answers to all three questions are no, then I'm declaring physics as my second major (I am a math major in my junior year) and devoting the rest of my life to solving, even if I only accomplish laying a framework for a greater mind to work from.
 
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It's an interesting question. I find dark flow to be interesting but haven't seen too much info on it. As far as I am aware, it has not been proven to be a false observation or misinterpretation, but there is also no viable theory for what's happening.

I would not be surprised if it IS a false observation or misinterpretation. We've got two "dark"s too many already, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe if we completely understood THEM, then whatever it is that is causing the effects labeled dark flow would be understood. Or, maybe not.
 
phinds said:
It's an interesting question. I find dark flow to be interesting but haven't seen too much info on it. As far as I am aware, it has not been proven to be a false observation or misinterpretation, but there is also no viable theory for what's happening.

I would not be surprised if it IS a false observation or misinterpretation. We've got two "dark"s too many already, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe if we completely understood THEM, then whatever it is that is causing the effects labeled dark flow would be understood. Or, maybe not.

I just found a thread on the topic, and we appreciate if future (substantive) comments would be redirected here

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=513878
 
'Dark' just seems to be a convenient label that has no real or intended connection to any other 'darks'. If the higgs particle were postulated today, it might well be known as the dark particle. If dark matter were known as 'zwicky matter', and dark energy as 'einstein energy', perhaps there would be a lot less confusion [just a little dark humor].
 

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