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The discussion centers on the mathematical relationship between column vectors u and v, and a matrix M. It establishes that if M is an n x n invertible matrix and M*u = M*v, then it follows that u = v. The reasoning is validated under the condition that M is regular (invertible) and n equals m. The confusion arises when considering cases where n does not equal m, as M does not possess an inverse in such scenarios.

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Let u, v be column vectors n x 1 and M a m x n matrix over a field K. If M*u= M*v, then (M^-1)*M*u=(M^-1)*M*v, thus, I*u=I*v. Hence u=v. But that shouldn't be the case. What is wrong in my reasoning?
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There is no inverse matrix for ##M## in case ##n\neq m##. If ##n=m## and ##M## is regular and ##Mu=Mv## then ##u=v##.
 
fresh_42 said:
There is no inverse matrix for ##M## in case ##n\neq m##. If ##n=m## and ##M## is regular and ##Mu=Mv## then ##u=v##.
Thank you for your answer. How can you prove that?
 
Gjmdp said:
Thank you for your answer. How can you prove that?
Your reasoning is correct if those assumptions are given.
 
fresh_42 said:
If ##n=m## and ##M## is regular and ##Mu=Mv## then ##u=v##.
I think more usual terms for regular are invertible or nonsingular.
Gjmdp said:
Thank you for your answer. How can you prove that?
##Mu = Mv \Rightarrow Mu - Mv = 0 \Rightarrow M(u - v) = 0##
Assuming M is invertible, then ##M^{-1}M(u - v) = M^{-1}0 = 0##, or ##u - v = 0##
 

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