The probability as an absolut value of the square of the amplitude

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the absolute value of the amplitude in the context of complex numbers, specifically whether to apply the absolute value to the square of the imaginary part or to the individual components of a complex number. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding complex numbers and their properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the absolute value should be applied to the square of the imaginary part or to the individual squares of the real and imaginary components.
  • Another participant explains that the absolute value of a complex number is calculated using the formula |z|^2 = Re(z)^2 + Im(z)^2, suggesting that the absolute value is related to the distance from the origin in the complex plane.
  • A further reply reiterates the concept that the absolute value represents the distance from the origin, linking it to Pythagoras' theorem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial question regarding the application of absolute values, as different interpretations are presented without resolution.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the representation of complex numbers and their properties, which may not be universally agreed upon. The mathematical steps and definitions involved in calculating absolute values are also not fully resolved.

TubbaBlubba
All right, I don't have a problme with the concept, just a specific question.

Is the absolute value of the amplitude abs(r^2 + (xi)^2) or abs(r^2) + abs((xi)^2)

Or, to put it in a simpler way - Do you absolute the value of the square of the imaginary part?

The difference would be, say

2^2 + (5i)^2 = 4 + (-25) = (-21)
abs(-21) = 21

and

2^2 + (5i)^2 = 4 + (-25)
abs(4) + abs(-25) = 29

The latter seems more physically sound to me, but the former seems more mathemathically sound. Can anyone clear this up for me?
 
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The imaginary part is the part standing next to the "i", so in your example the 5 itself. Then you get the absolute value of the complex number by
[tex]|z|^2 = \Re(z)^2+\Im(z)^2[/tex]
Or by using the complex conjugate
[tex]|z|^2 = z \cdot \bar z[/tex]

For the first part I suspect you write your complex number in polar coordinates
[tex]z = r \exp{i \xi}[/tex]
In this case the absolute value would be just [tex]|z|=r[/tex]
 
Ah, I think I see, the absolute value is the distance from the origin? Thanks for clearing it up.
 
TubbaBlubba said:
Ah, I think I see, the absolute value is the distance from the origin? Thanks for clearing it up.

Yes. If you draw the complex number in the complex plane you can recognize the above formula as an application of Pythagoras' theorem.
 

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