The spectrum of reflected light from a planet question.

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The discussion revolves around the spectrum of reflected light from a planet and how it compares to the spectrum of a nearby star. Participants explore the contributions of both reflected and emitted light from the planet, considering factors such as albedo and surface characteristics. The scope includes theoretical aspects, mathematical reasoning, and homework-related queries.

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  • One participant questions whether the spectrum of reflected light from a planet is simply the star's spectrum scaled by albedo.
  • Another participant argues that the spectrum depends on the planet's surface and atmosphere, noting that different planets exhibit different colors compared to the sun.
  • A participant expresses confusion about how to calculate the brightness of a planet, considering both reflected and emitted light, and proposes a formula to compare the planet's brightness to that of the star.
  • One reply highlights that the blackbody emission from a planet is minor compared to that of a star, suggesting the use of the Stefan–Boltzmann law for calculations and discussing the impact of albedo and solid angle on the reflected light.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify why planets have different colors based on their surface materials and atmospheric gases.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between the spectra of stars and planets. There are multiple competing views regarding the contributions of reflected and emitted light, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants express uncertainty about the calculations involving reflected and emitted light, and there are missing assumptions regarding the definitions of albedo and the conditions under which the approximations hold. The discussion also highlights the complexity of comparing brightness across different wavelengths.

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Is the spectrum of reflected light of a planet the same as the spectrum of the star near it but just less in magnitude? Like when you do B(Lambda;T) for it you just multiply that answer by the albedo?
 
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No it depends on the surface of the planet and the atmosphere (if any)
eg. Mars and Jupiter appear a lot redder than the sun.

A rocky object like the moon is 'grey' to a first approximation so you can just use the albedo.
 
Thanks for the quick reply. I still don't quite get it though. Plancks Spectrum gives an intensity of light at a certain wavelength and temperature right? For a star you can chose the wavelength and calculate the temperature if you assume the star is a blackbody. But how would you do this for a planet? The planet has both emitted and reflected light contributing to its Planck spectrum.

I have a problem on my HW that asks me to compute the brightness of the planet relative to the star at certain wavelenghs 450nm 700nm and 2.2um. It asks me to consider both the starlight reflected off the planet and the backbody light emitted from the planet. When i first started this problem I just did B(lambda;Temp of planet)/B(lambda;Temp of star) for all the wavelengths and compared to see what was higher in each case. But this doesn't take into account the reflected light of the planet right? The reflected light and the emitted differ by a factor of albedo and 1-albedo. So my question is can i just do
((B(lambda;Temp of planet)*(1-a)) * (B(lambda;Temp of star)*a)) / B(lambda;Temp of star) to compare total brightness of planet to that of the star?
 
The blackbody emission from a planet at 300K with a radius of 3000km is pretty insignificant compared to a star at 6000K with a radius of 700,000Km. You can use the Stefan–Boltzmann law to work it out. At the short wavelengths you are given the planet emits hardly anything.

To a simple approximation you can then work out from the solid angle, the fraction of the solar radiation hitting the planet and assume some albedo. You can also approximate the planet to a 2d disc facing the sun.

I was trying to explain why some planets are coloured due to the rock on their surface or the gases in their atmosphere.
 

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