The time between when the neutrinos are emitted in double-beta decay?

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The discussion revolves around the timing of neutrino emissions during double-beta decay, specifically whether the two neutrinos are emitted simultaneously or at different times. Participants explore theoretical possibilities and the implications of decay mechanisms, touching on related concepts in nuclear decay processes.

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  • Some participants assert that the two neutrinos in double-beta decay are emitted simultaneously.
  • Others express skepticism about the notion of simultaneous emission, suggesting that it may depend on physical mechanisms and instrument resolution.
  • A participant mentions that double-beta decay occurs when the parent nucleus cannot undergo single beta decay, raising questions about specific isotopes and their decay energies.
  • There is a discussion about the decay energy and branching fraction of calcium-48's single beta decay to scandium-48, indicating that while single beta decay is allowed, it is not energetically favorable compared to double beta decay.
  • Another participant notes that there are specific isotopes where beta decay is nearly energetically forbidden, yet the rates for these processes are significantly lower than for double beta decay.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the neutrinos are emitted simultaneously, with some asserting this while others question the validity of that claim. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the timing of neutrino emissions and the conditions under which they occur.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about simultaneous emission and the dependence on specific decay mechanisms and isotopes. The discussion also highlights the complexity of decay processes and the varying rates associated with different types of decay.

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Double-beta decay will emit two neutrinos.
But, are they simultaneously released or separated?
 
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Yes, they are emitted at the same time.

There are also many isotopes that will do a normal beta decay, where the produced nucleus will do another beta decay later, but that is not called double beta decay then.
 
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mfb said:
Yes, they are emitted at the same time.

There are also many isotopes that will do a normal beta decay, where the produced nucleus will do another beta decay later, but that is not called double beta decay then.

I am serious in doubt "the same time". To be emitted at the same time is really a magic unless there are some physical mechanism to make them, otherwise "the same time" only means the instrument time resolution. If you have better instrument you will be able to detect they are NOT at the same time.
 
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To be emitted at the same time is really a magic unless there are some physical mechanism to make them
That physical mechanism is the double beta decay.
 
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The entire point with double beta decay is that the parent nucleus energetically cannot undergo single beta decay.
 
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Orodruin said:
The entire point with double beta decay is that the parent nucleus energetically cannot undergo single beta decay.
Are you sure?
What is the decay energy and branching fraction of calcium 48 single beta decay to scandium 48?
 
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snorkack said:
Are you sure?
What is the decay energy and branching fraction of calcium 48 single beta decay to scandium 48?
That is something of an anomaly where single beta decay is allowed but not very favourable energetically compared to the double beta decay. However, the double decay is a higher order process. Together these effects happen to give similar decay widths for the two types of decay but it is not the general situation for double beta decaying nuclei.
 
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There are two decays 48Ca -> 48Sc and 96Zr -> 96Mo where beta decay is almost but not quite energetically forbidden. However, the rates for these processes are substantially lower than for double beta decay: around 1000 for calcium and much larger for zirconium.
 
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