The Unsolvable Paradox: Unstoppable v. Immovable

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of an unstoppable force colliding with an immovable object, exploring the implications and interpretations of this paradox from both a philosophical and a physics perspective. Participants engage in conceptual reasoning, speculative scenarios, and playful references to popular culture.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that neither an unstoppable force nor an immovable object can exist, suggesting that the collision is inherently nonsensical.
  • Others propose that if such entities did exist, the unstoppable force would continue to apply pressure indefinitely without moving the immovable object.
  • A few participants speculate that the collision could result in infinite energy, potentially leading to catastrophic consequences for the universe.
  • Some suggest that the unstoppable force might pass through the immovable object without any effect, challenging the definitions of both terms.
  • One participant draws an analogy to a philosophical question about divine omnipotence, comparing the paradox to the idea of God creating an unliftable rock.
  • Several posts reference gaming scenarios, using terms and mechanics from World of Warcraft to illustrate points, though this approach is met with mixed relevance to the original question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus, with multiple competing views and interpretations of the paradox remaining unresolved throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of forces and objects, with some participants emphasizing the need for definitions to clarify the scenario. The lack of consensus on the properties of the hypothetical entities complicates the discourse.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring philosophical paradoxes, conceptual physics, or the interplay between theoretical constructs and real-world implications.

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What would happened if an unstopable force collided with an imoveable object?

Its from a human perspective and they have no properties such as bouncing, breaking, reflecting,etc

aswell, speed and what not are not needed

Good luck
 
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There's no such thing as either. But if there were the infinite energy given off by the colision would destroy the universe.:smile:So there is no answer.
 
MBull said:
What would happened if an unstopable force collided with an imoveable object?

Its from a human perspective and they have no properties such as bouncing, breaking, reflecting,etc

aswell, speed and what not are not needed

Good luck

A force doesn't collide with anything, it just gets applied to things. And if it's unstopable, the force just continues to be applied. So, the force would be pushing on the immovable object forever, but the object wouldn't move. :)

DaveE
 
davee123 said:
A force doesn't collide with anything, it just gets applied to things. And if it's unstopable, the force just continues to be applied. So, the force would be pushing on the immovable object forever, but the object wouldn't move. :)

DaveE

Oh I see he meant it terms of "physics" not "real" world terminology. Depends what the force is, if it's an infinite force of love then no effect: if it's an infinite force= m.a then that's a little different. if it's anything defined then if it's unstoppable the universe would be destroyed by definition, it would absorb said infinite force and said force would depending on what it was create infinite energy. if it was gravity and the object was immovable, then the energy would become infinite and the universe would end assuming it could never be moved. So long as you don't define x your in safe territory.
 
MBull said:
What would happened if an unstopable force collided with an imoveable object?

Its from a human perspective and they have no properties such as bouncing, breaking, reflecting,etc

aswell, speed and what not are not needed

Good luck

Well, the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19323" has an armor rating of 2.8k, I think a better approach to this paradox would be to use Ice Lance, although if the object is not frozen then you'll have some trouble.But if we aren't talked about WoW, then it's kind of like talking about something infinitely massive. This infinitely massive object is being pushed an infinitely large force... you just end up without an answer.
 
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:smile: i love your name "DyslexicHobo"
 
MBull said:
What would happened if an unstopable force collided with an imoveable object?

Its from a human perspective and they have no properties such as bouncing, breaking, reflecting,etc

aswell, speed and what not are not needed

Good luck

Perhaps it would pass right through the object without the force being stopped or the object being moved. :biggrin:
 
DyslexicHobo said:
Well, the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19323" has an armor rating of 2.8k, I think a better approach to this paradox would be to use Ice Lance, although if the object is not frozen then you'll have some trouble.


But if we aren't talked about WoW, then it's kind of like talking about something infinitely massive. This infinitely massive object is being pushed an infinitely large force... you just end up without an answer.


Or use rupture rather then eviscerate. Or you're mutilate spec and DWing Deadly you can use Envenom.
 
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Following how grant9076 briefly put it...

Seeing's how they are devoid of properties, the unstoppable force proceeds into and through the immovable object, and continues on its merry way.
 
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Both objects could not exist in the same universe.

Its like saying "could god create a rock so heavy that he could not lift it?"

on one hand god can create anything.
on the other hand there is no rock god couldn't lift.
 
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One would body slam the other and Hulk Hogan would come out the winner.
 
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DyslexicHobo said:
Well, the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19323" has an armor rating of 2.8k, I think a better approach to this paradox would be to use Ice Lance, although if the object is not frozen then you'll have some trouble.


But if we aren't talked about WoW, then it's kind of like talking about something infinitely massive. This infinitely massive object is being pushed an infinitely large force... you just end up without an answer.

I thought the exact same thing (WoW items) when I read this thread.
 
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