The vector space of matrices that commute with A

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The discussion revolves around the vector space of matrices that commute with a given matrix A, specifically focusing on the dimension of this space and methods to determine it. Participants explore theoretical aspects, mathematical reasoning, and specific examples related to 2x2 matrices.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines the set V of matrices B that commute with A and questions how to find the dimension of V, expressing uncertainty about constructing a basis.
  • Another participant provides a specific example using 2x2 matrices, deriving a system of linear equations to find the dimension of the space of matrices commuting with A.
  • It is noted that the dimension of the space of matrices commuting with A depends on the specific matrix A, with the case of A being the zero matrix leading to a dimension of n^2.
  • A participant mentions that there are n^2 equations governing the commutation relation and suggests that the dimension of V is at most n^2 and at least 2, depending on the properties of A and B.
  • One participant asserts that if matrix B shares the same eigenvectors as A, it will commute with A, introducing a condition for commutation.
  • Another participant reiterates the eigenvector condition and adds that matrices will commute if they can be represented in a basis where both are upper triangular.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the conditions under which matrices commute with A, with some agreement on the eigenvector condition but no consensus on the general dimension of V or the implications of specific properties of A.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of matrices A and B, such as whether they are Hermitian or share eigenvectors, which may affect the conclusions drawn about the dimension of V.

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Suppose ##A## is a ## n \times n## matrix.

Define the set ## V = \{ B | AB = BA, B \in M_{n \times n}( \mathbb{F}) \} ##
I know that ##V## is a subspace of ##M_{n \times n}( \mathbb{F}) ## but how might I go about finding the dimension of ##V##? Is this even possible? It seems like an interesting problem, but constructing a basis for ##V## seems to me challenging enough. Any tips for me?

Thanks!

P.S. Not a homework problem, I made it myself and not sure if it has a simple answer.

BiP
 
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Let's demonstrate this with 2X2 matrices...

Let A = \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1 &amp; 2 \\<br /> 3 &amp; 4 \\ \end{array} \right) . Multiplying this from either side with the general 2X2 matrix \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> a &amp; b \\<br /> c &amp; d \\ \end{array} \right) and requiring that the matrix elements of these products are equal, we get a system of linear equations:

a + 2c - a - 3b = 0
b + 2d - 2a - 4b = 0
3a + 4c - c - 3d = 0
3b + 4d - 2c - 4d = 0

Now we get the dimensionality of the space of matrices commuting with A as the dimensionality of the kernel of the coefficient matrix of this linear system.
 
The answer is going to depend upon A. For example, if A= 0, AB= BA= 0 for all B so the space of all matrices that commute with A has dimension n^2.
 
In general you would have n^2 equations
\sum_{m=1}^n A_{im} B_{mj} - A_{mj}B_{im} = 0
The dimension of V will be a most n^2 and at least 2 (providing n &gt; 1), since all n\times n matrices commute with scalar multiples of the identity, as well as scalar multiples of themselves. Perhaps it is interesting to consider additional constraints on \mathbf{A} and \mathbf{B}. For example, what if \mathbf{A} and \mathbf{B} are Hermitian?
 
I'm not a very mathy person, so I'll just drop my 2 cents. If B has the same eigenvectors as A, then it commutes with A.
 
HasuChObe said:
I'm not a very mathy person, so I'll just drop my 2 cents. If B has the same eigenvectors as A, then it commutes with A.

This almost cuts out the full heart of the matter. The matrices will commute if and only if there is a basis where they are both upper triangular.

There's even a wikipedia article about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuting_matrices
 

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