Theoretical vs Experimental physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between theoretical and experimental physicists, including their skills, potential for overlap, and the nature of their work. It explores the implications of these differences across various fields of physics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that theoretical physicists focus on theory while experimental physicists conduct experiments, implying a fundamental distinction in their roles.
  • Others argue that it is possible for individuals to be both theoretical and experimental physicists, although this is considered rare among theorists.
  • One participant notes that experimental physics tends to be more costly and requires practical engineering knowledge, which varies by field.
  • There is mention of specific physicists who have engaged in both theoretical and experimental work, although some participants express unfamiliarity with these names.
  • A participant highlights that in certain fields, such as condensed matter physics, the barriers between theorists and experimentalists are significant due to the practical knowledge required for experiments.
  • Another participant humorously contrasts the perspectives of theoretical and practical physicists, suggesting a philosophical divide regarding their roles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the extent to which theoretical and experimental physicists can overlap in their work. While some agree on the fundamental differences, others highlight exceptions and collaborative practices across fields.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include varying definitions of what constitutes theoretical versus experimental work, and the specific skills required may depend heavily on the subfield of physics being discussed.

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whats the big difference to between a theoretical physicists and a experimental physicist? do they have or need different skills? would it be possible to become both?
 
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Experimental physics costs more. Yes, it is possible to be both.
 
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Well, one does theory and the other does experiments? The answer is in your question.

And yes, there exist people who do/have done both
 
e.bar.goum said:
And yes, there exist people who do/have done both

There are experimentalists that do theory, but I can't think of a single theorist who does experiments (which doesn't mean that they don't exist, but it is certainly rare).

The main difference is obviously that experimentalists mainly do experimental work (but also analyse data, build models etc.); another difference is that experimentalists have to know a fair bit about engineering. How much depends on the field you are in and what you are doing, and you rarely need the "deep" knowledge that a "real" engineer would have.

One neat thing about having a degree in physics is that you have the necessary background to learn just about anything in engineering, this means that if you discover that you need to learn more about something in order to perform an experiment you can usually just pick up a book, one can often reach the "tinkering level" in just a few days.

Note that I wouldn't worry about the difference until you reach the PhD level.
 
f95toli said:
There are experimentalists that do theory, but I can't think of a single theorist who does experiments (which doesn't mean that they don't exist, but it is certainly rare).

Hinchliffe, Bjorken, Page, Hill, Halzen. These are just off the top of my head.
 
I must admit I don't recognize either of those names. Which field?
In my field (condensed matter/device physics) the barriers between experimentalists and theorists are quite high; basically because you need a lot of practical knowledge to do any experiments. I guess it might be different in say astronomy, particle physics or even crystallography where people often use facilities and the "experimental" bit essentially comes down to thinking of new experiments and analysing data. (and less with say being able to change oil in vacuum pumps, design a circuit, troubleshooting ground-loops or transfer liquid helium; which tends to be a large part of the day-to-day work in my field).
Hence, in practice you usually have a situation where an experimental groups collaborate with one or more theory groups.
 
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I expect the theoretical physicist believes that, in theory, there is no significant difference, whereas the practical physicist thinks that view is practically nonsense!
 

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