Thermodynamics: Einstein solid (simple step in derivation)

The +1 should not be there. It seems like a mistake or a typo in the book. The correct expression should be Nkln(q/N).
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S=kln([itex]\frac{eq}{N}[/itex])N --->= S=Nkln([itex]\frac{q}{N}+1[/itex])

i understand that the e goes away and the N exponent comes down but where does the +1 come from?
 
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iScience said:
S=kln([itex]\frac{eq}{N}[/itex])N --->= S=Nkln([itex]\frac{q}{N}+1[/itex])

i understand that the e goes away and the N exponent comes down but where does the +1 come from?

That's not even right. kln((eq/N)^N)=Nk(1+ln(q/N)). Use more parentheses to show what you really mean. Just use rules of logarithms, and show how you are using them.
 
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there are no more parentheses that's what's in my book. is this even an approximation??
 
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iScience said:
there are no more parentheses that's what's in my book. is this even an approximation??

No, I think it's just wrong.
 
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The +1 comes from the fact that in the Einstein solid model, each particle has two possible energy states: either it is in a low energy state or a high energy state. This means that the total number of possible energy states for N particles is N+1. Therefore, when we take the natural logarithm of the ratio of the total number of possible energy states to the number of particles, we get ln(q/N+1). This is then multiplied by the Boltzmann constant, k, to give the entropy, S.
 

What is thermodynamics?

Thermodynamics is a branch of physics that deals with the study of energy and its transformations, particularly in relation to heat and work. It is concerned with understanding the behavior of systems that involve large numbers of particles and their interactions.

What is an Einstein solid?

An Einstein solid is a model used in thermodynamics to describe the behavior of a solid at the molecular level. It consists of a large number of identical atoms that are capable of vibrating, and these vibrations are considered to be the source of the solid's internal energy.

What is a simple step in the derivation of Einstein solid?

The simple step in the derivation of Einstein solid is the application of the Boltzmann distribution, which states that the probability of a molecule being in a certain energy state is proportional to the Boltzmann factor, e^(-E/kT). This step allows us to calculate the average energy of an Einstein solid at a given temperature.

What is the significance of Einstein solid in thermodynamics?

Einstein solid is significant in thermodynamics because it provides a simple model for understanding the behavior of solids at the molecular level. It also helps us to derive important thermodynamic properties, such as the heat capacity and entropy, which are crucial for understanding the behavior of materials in various processes.

How does Einstein solid relate to the concept of entropy?

Einstein solid is closely related to the concept of entropy, as the vibrations of molecules in an Einstein solid contribute to the overall entropy of the system. As the temperature increases, the number of energy states available to the molecules also increases, resulting in an increase in entropy. This relationship between energy and entropy is a fundamental concept in thermodynamics.

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