They thought that the electron should fall into the nucleus?

In summary, the electron cannot be explained in terms of orbiting the nucleus because it emits and loses energy.
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Hopefully I have this right. When they discovered the electron, they immediately realized that the electron should get sucked into the nucleus due to the electromagnetic force from the opposite charges. Why didn't they assume that the electron could orbit the nucleus to cancel out the electromagnetic force if it was traveling fast enough, just like the Moon orbits the Earth to cancel out the gravity?

The reason why I ask this in the homework section is because it is in my textbook. I am not sure if I will have to know this.
 
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Probably because an electron is not a discrete object like a planet and it doesn't orbit a nucleus. A more accurate description of what's happening is that the electron is vibrating around the nucleus. Think of the electron as a wave, not a particle in your case.
 
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Accelerating charge emits electromagnetic radiation and loses energy.
 
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Probably because an electron is not a discrete object like a planet and it doesn't orbit a nucleus. A more accurate description of what's happening is that the electron is vibrating around the nucleus. Think of the electron as a wave, not a particle in your case.

Question is not about "what the electron is", but about "why it can't be explained in the terms of orbiting the nucleus". Once we knew it can't we had to look for other explanations, but the first rule in science is - use Occam's razor. If something can be explained using known phenomena/laws/effects there is no need for new ones.
 
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Accelerating charge emits electromagnetic radiation and loses energy.

Thank-you so much! They mentioned an "infinite energy" issue that I didn't understand either, but your post clears that up for me too.
 
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student34 said:
They mentioned an "infinite energy" issue that I didn't understand either

It is the same problem, just expressed in a different way.
 
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The electron doesn't fall into the nucleus b/c it can absorb and release energy. I'd suggest reviewing the Bohr Model of the atom and why Neils Bohr related the bright line emission spectrum of Hydrogen to electrons orbiting at 'discrete' distances from the nucleus. Basically, electrons absorb energy, jump outward from a low energy orbit to a higher energy orbit and then falls back to lower energy levels. During the 'electron transition' from a higher energy orbit to a lower energy orbit, light energy (photons) are emitted. If they stop at the n = 2 energy ( or, L-shell of the atom ) they will emit visible radiation which can be viewed using a diffraction grating or prism. Hydrogen gives 4 visible spectra lines, each having a 'discrete' wavelength. This means that the electron during energy level transitions will reside at a specific distance (discrete average, i.e., principle quantum number (n) according to Quantum Mechanics) from the nucleus. The electron starts its transition in a higher energy orbital, then it is in a lower energy orbital. It doesn't stop in between, or give evidence that it passed through the 'in between'. Such is called 'quantization,' or more commonly referred to as a 'quantum leap'. If they resided anywhere within the atomic volume, examination of the EMR Spectrum would be a Continuous Spectrum like the rainbow. Colors of the rain bow: ROY G BIV. From low energy to high energy ... Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo & Violet.

P.S. 'Infinite Energy' is the 1st (and only) Ionization Energy of the Hydrogen Atom. ∆Ei-1 = 2,8 x 10-18 Joule[ (1/n2)i - (1/n2) ] = 2.8 x 10-18 Joule[ (1/n2)i ] where (1/∞2) = 0. Then ionization from the ground state configuration, n = 1 => ∆Ei-1 = 2.8 x 10-18 Joule/H-atom = [(2.18x10-18 x 6.02x1023) / 1000]Kj/mole = 1312 Kj/mole.
 
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FAQ: They thought that the electron should fall into the nucleus?

1. What is the theory behind the idea that the electron should fall into the nucleus?

The theory behind this idea is based on classical mechanics, which states that an orbiting object should lose energy and ultimately collapse into the center of its orbit. This applies to the electron orbiting the nucleus in an atom.

2. Why doesn't the electron actually fall into the nucleus?

The theory of quantum mechanics explains that the electron does not behave like a classical object, but rather as a probability distribution around the nucleus. This means that the electron does not have a defined orbit, and therefore does not lose energy and collapse into the nucleus.

3. What evidence supports the idea that the electron does not fall into the nucleus?

Experiments, such as the Stern-Gerlach experiment, have shown that the electron has a spin and angular momentum, which would not be possible if it were to fall into the nucleus. Additionally, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that the position and momentum of a particle cannot be known simultaneously, further supporting the concept of a probability distribution for the electron.

4. Are there any exceptions to the idea that the electron does not fall into the nucleus?

In certain extreme conditions, such as within a black hole, the laws of quantum mechanics may break down and the classical mechanics theory of an object collapsing into its center may apply. However, this does not occur in the normal conditions of an atom.

5. How does this concept affect our understanding of the atom and the universe?

The idea that the electron does not fall into the nucleus is a fundamental principle of quantum mechanics. It allows for a better understanding of the behavior of subatomic particles and the structure of atoms. It also has implications for our understanding of the larger universe and the behavior of matter on a microscopic level.

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