# This problem is hindering my overall work

1. Nov 8, 2006

### Dimedrol

This problem is hindering my overall work !!!

Need to find particular solution.
y"+6y'+5y=-9te^(5t)

What would be my guess work: I tried y_p=Ate^(5t)+Bte^(5t)
Any thought on the guess?
Thanks,
Dmitriy.

2. Nov 9, 2006

### dextercioby

If you like lenghty calculations, you might use the method of variation of constants. Assume for example that the particular solution to the given ODE is of the form

$$y_{p}=C(t)e^{-5t}$$

You need to find the exact expression of C(t). For that plug in the ODE and then get another nonhomogenous second ODE whose particular solution you need to find

I get something like

$$C''(t)-4C'(t)=-9te^{10t}$$

for which i use the ansatz

$$C(t)=D(t)e^{4t}$$

and finally getting the ODE

$$D''(t)=-9te^{6t}$$

which can be integrated twice to get a solution depending on 2 constants of integration which you'll determine by plugging in the initial ODE.

Daniel.

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3. Nov 9, 2006

### dextercioby

It's too complicated what i did above (perhaps even incorrect).

Try the ansatz

$$y_{p}=C(t)e^{5t}$$

THe ODE for C(t) is

$$C''(t)+16C'(t)+60C(t)=-9t$$

whose particular solution is

$$C_{p}(t)=\frac{1}{25}-\frac{3}{20}t$$

and whose general solution, after using the ansatz leads to the same general solution of the initial ODE, so nothing new. Ergo, the particular solution to the initial ODE is

$$y_{p}(t)=\left(\frac{1}{25}-\frac{3}{20}t\right)e^{5t}$$

Daniel.

4. Nov 9, 2006

### Dimedrol

dexterciby: This is works perfect.
however, it certainly interfere with my previous knowledge about non homogeneous EQ's. one of the solutions for the characteristic equation is e^(-5t), wouldn't we have to multiply everything by another "t"?

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5. Nov 10, 2006

### dextercioby

No, i absorbed any linear "t" dependence in the unknown function C(t).

Daniel.

6. Nov 10, 2006

### HallsofIvy

Since e5t is not a solution to the associated homogeneous equation (e-5t is), a solution to the entire equation will be of the form yp(t)= (At+ B)e5t. Plug that into the equation and solve for A and B.