This will save millions of lives: LifeStraw

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around LifeStraw®, a portable water purification tool designed to make surface water safe for human consumption. Participants explore its functionality, effectiveness, and potential impact on global health, particularly in areas lacking access to clean drinking water. The conversation touches on various aspects including its design, usage, limitations, and broader implications for water access and sustainability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe LifeStraw® as a tool that can filter up to 700 liters of water, effectively removing microorganisms responsible for waterborne diseases.
  • Others express skepticism about the claimed one-year lifespan of the filter, suggesting that actual usage may vary significantly based on water contamination levels.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the effectiveness of LifeStraw® in muddy or heavily contaminated water, with some participants questioning whether it can maintain its performance under such conditions.
  • Some participants highlight the environmental impact of bottled water and suggest that LifeStraw® could reduce reliance on plastic bottles.
  • There are discussions about the potential for LifeStraw® to be beneficial in wilderness survival situations, as well as in areas suffering from drought or flooding.
  • One participant notes the importance of testing the product under field conditions to verify its effectiveness.
  • Concerns about iodine allergies are mentioned, with a participant questioning the safety of using LifeStraw® for individuals with such allergies.
  • Some participants reflect on the broader implications of providing affordable water purification solutions to address global health issues related to contaminated water.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of enthusiasm and skepticism regarding LifeStraw®. While there is a general agreement on the importance of clean drinking water, opinions diverge on the effectiveness and practicality of LifeStraw® in various conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding its long-term usability and safety for individuals with specific health concerns.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty about the filter's performance in heavily contaminated water and the potential health risks for individuals with iodine allergies. There is also a lack of consensus on the lifespan of the product under different usage scenarios.

  • #31
cyrus said:
Something is better than nothing, for the time being. Send them out by the billions, I say.
At $3 each, if someone had $3 billion to spend on these things, surely it would be better to build water purification systems than just provide a temporary measure allowing people to drink from contaminated water sources.

As Astronuc points out, though, the bigger limitation is political. Having the money doesn't mean it gets used for the intended purpose or that aid is allowed passage to the people who need it.
 
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  • #32
The problem is that infrastructure is not a one-time charge, nor is it a localized problem to get water to all who need it. The demand for clean water is a global issue. You could not otherwise provide clean water to a billion people for three billion dollars. I would bet that the bill for water systems globally would amount to trillions.

A personal note: We are on a well and live in an area that has bad water - sulfur, iron, iron bacteria. Our twenty year chlorinated treatment and filter system [for one house] cost me about $10K to purchase, and probably another couple of hundred dollars a year to maintain. The total installation [building and cement work, power, permits, plumbing connections etc] cost about $20K.
 
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  • #33
I think preventing or mitigating contamination of water supplies would go along way to reduce water borne diseases.

One may remember wells that would dug in Bangladesh years ago. Everyone thought - Great! - Fresh water. What they didn't anticipate was the high levels of Arsenic in the water.

http://www.eng-consult.com/arsen.htm
http://www.sos-arsenic.net/
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/298/5598/1602
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/bangladesh.html

In addition to the wells, they needed appropriate filtration to remove the arsenic, or they need to find well sources without arsenic contamination.

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/05/02/aresenic_test.html
 
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  • #34
The need for clean water must be addressed on a global scale, but the LifeStraw will start saving lives as soon as it arrives where needed.

There has been a huge breakthrough in reverse osmosis systems that reduces the energy demand significantly. It involves a spinning filter technology that reclaims energy previously sacrificed. Does anyone know the name? I need to search... but it is exciting because energy is the problem here. I'll try to find a link.
 
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  • #36
I think this is it.

Pump Engineering Inc provides energy recovery turbochargers: Hydraulic TurboCharger for sea water reverse osmosis, High Pressure TurboCharger for gas processing, and Low Pressure TurboCharger for brackish water reverse osmosis

...The Advanced Technology Turbocharger recovers hydraulic energy from the high pressure concentrate (brine) stream in the reverse osmosis (RO) process and transfers that energy to a feed stream. That feed stream may be seawater going into a single stage RO membrane block, or it may be first stage brine stream being boosted in pressure for a second stage membrane block for further recovery of permeate. This unique approach offers many advantages to the RO designer and users.

Advanced Technology Turbocharger Background
Like the previous generation PEI Turbos, the Advanced Technology Turbocharger transfer pressure energy from one liquid stream to a second liquid stream. However, with the use of new technology the Advanced Technology Turbocharger does this energy transference much more efficiently. The Advanced Technology Turbocharger consists of a pump impeller section and a turbine rotor section. Both pump and turbine sections contain a single stage impeller or rotor. The turbine rotor extracts hydraulic energy from the brine stream and converts it to mechanical energy. The pump impeller converts the mechanical energy produced by the turbine rotor back to pressure energy in the feed stream. Thus the Advanced Technology Turbocharger is entirely energized by the brine stream. It has no electrical, external lubrication, or pneumatic requirements.

The turbine rotor depressurizes the brine while extracting the energy in the form of high speed rotational torque. The brine, depressurized up to 5psi (brine exhaust can be any value, even hundreds of psi) is exhausted to the discharge piping.

It is readily apparent that the reduced discharge pressure of the high pressure pump will have a large effect not only on reducing operating cost, but also on reducing both initial capital and maintenance cost. [continued]
http://www.idswater.com/water/us/pump_engineering/Hydraulic_turbocharger/105_0/g_supplier.html
 
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  • #37
Thanks for those links Ivan.

A relevant article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_crisis

Inadequate access to safe drinking water by over 1.1 billion people

Sometimes oceans are mistaken for available water, but the amount of energy needed to convert saline water to potable water is prohibitive today, explaining why only a very small fraction of the world's water supply derives from desalination.
 
  • #38
In light of the current crisis in Haiti, I wanted to give this thread a bump.
 

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