Thread Format Changed? Suggestion for Better Visibility

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The recent changes to the forum's post display format have sparked mixed reactions among users. While some appreciate the new layout, many express concerns about the visibility of usernames, suggesting that they should be in a lighter color for better readability. Users are also frustrated with the size of avatars, which have become too small, diminishing their visibility and personal significance. Additionally, there are complaints about the alignment and spacing of various elements, making it difficult to navigate and identify posts quickly. Overall, users are seeking adjustments to improve clarity and functionality while adapting to the new format.
  • #61
I'm with phinds on that. I'm not damning you for trying but I feel like I showed up to work to find that the office had been completely rearranged without any warning.

Sounds exciting :)

Nugatory said:
Has the multi-quote feature disappeared? I needed it a few minutes back and I couldn't find it.

It's broken and should be back on sunday. Sorry about that :(
 
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  • #62
I like the move towards a more content-focused format. Finding the right look takes time; thanks for keepin' at it, Greg.
 
  • #63
I too like the focus on the content
 
  • #64
Borg said:
... I feel like I showed up to work to find that the office had been completely rearranged without any warning.
Funny you should mention that. When reality finally sunk in earlier today (i.e. all's okay), I was wondering how the "resistance to change" that comes out here at PF might be used for some good. Then I though of an old Engineering Management book I have somewhere and wanted to see how that particular feeling was addressed in the chapter on "Conflict Resolution". Go figure.
 
  • #65
While we are fiddling things - I'd like to have some indicator for the original poster.
In long threads, I can lose track.

I'm guessing that something indicating how many posts someone has made will reappear?
Mostly I use it as a check for newbies ... if the posts=1, then they get a "welcome to PF" at the start and a low post count gets more diplomacy since they may not know how things work here so much.

I've read through the other comments...

The colors stand out OK for me - but different machines can render the colors differently.
I cannot read the poster names in the mobile app for eg.
But here (on the desktop) I see the title-bars as 2-tone blue with a light-blue name for the regular members.
Most machines seem to handle lots of shades of blue quite well but maybe that's changing.

I'd have gone for the avatar first (before the username, where the "online light" is now - put the light last) which would be in line with trends in the mobile world ... but I see others don't like that. I'd be in favor of less bold badges too ... a set of letters without the colored background should be fine: it would look like academic qualifications.

A wider post-space is quite nice - especially for long equations or larger pics and diagrams ... but is nasty for actually reading text. LaTeX folk have a lot to say about this and their 80-character textwidth works well.

A lot of browsers will let the user override the websites display instructions ... but I've never tried to rework a forum before. I don't know how useful it would be to have more extensive display options in the user profiles.

My main interests are the top two:
... an "original poster" indicator
... a post-count.
 
  • #66
Oh, this looks nice!
 
  • #67
Evo said:
Oh, this looks nice!
Yes it does indeed.
 
  • #69
I think the nicknames are not visible enough. I also think that this new layout is particularly bad for accounts without avatar (I much prefered, like 6hours ago or so).

The 3 buttons (Thanks, Report and Quote) should have some kind of separation, from the message.
 
  • #70
x2791258 said:
The 3 buttons (Thanks, Report and Quote) should have some kind of separation, from the message.

Agreed.

I'm still not convinced that removing the post count from obvious display is a great idea. Post counts give us an insight into how our replies should be structured. I don't think some high post counters that I may not recognize would appreciate being lectured on their simple typos, simply because I may have confused them for being legitimate errors for example.
 
  • #71
I rather like not seeing post counts. If you want to know someone better you can always look at their public profile. This is much cleaner, and centralizes our responses without too much "personality" credit, being read for what the post really says.

Realizing someone as prolific or long-time-user shouldn't add any pretense to posts, IMO.
 
  • #72
How about increasing the posts per page?
 
  • #73
Simon Bridge said:
I'm guessing that something indicating how many posts someone has made will reappear?
Mostly I use it as a check for newbies ... if the posts=1, then they get a "welcome to PF" at the start and a low post count gets more diplomacy since they may not know how things work here so much.
If you left-click on the membername, the post count appears at the top of the drop-down list.

(At least for now. :smile:)
 
  • #74
I'm sorry about having to argue a point here in this thread, but I just feel too strongly on the subject.

phion said:
I rather like not seeing post counts. If you want to know someone better you can always look at their public profile. This is much cleaner, and centralizes our responses without too much "personality" credit, being read for what the post really says.

Realizing someone as prolific or long-time-user shouldn't add any pretense to posts, IMO.
Whether a post count should or should not inherit any preconceived notions should be a choice that the readers can make for themselves. Not every member on this forum is on equal footing, and rightly so. We distinguish the paid members from the free members, the homework helpers, the science advisors, the mentors etc. Why? Because they've earned their status and should be treated appropriately. But what do post counts show? High post counts usually represent the veterans, the dedicated and possibly even the no-lifers. Why should these qualities be ignored?

Now, this doesn't mean that a low post count automatically disqualifies the poster from having his or her voice heard. A quality post can be written by a low post counter just as easily as a thorough and accurate scientific explanation can be given by a non-science advisor, and quite interchangeably, there do exist some pretty sloppy - and even just plain wrong - homework help posts (by myself included) while many untitled posters have put their best foot forward in helping out (and of course, this is how many end up earning the title themselves).

I just feel as though removing the post counter from plain view is like removing a detail about a poster's life on this forum.
 
  • #75
Mentallic said:
I just feel as though removing the post counter from plain view is like removing a detail about a poster's life on this forum.

It is temporary
 
  • #76
OmCheeto said:
I always saw two eyes and an evil smile. Now it's just dots...

Oh dear. That's his daughter!

pf.2013.08.03.0826.dlgoffs.kung.fu.daughter.jpg


And here, all along, I thought I was looking at a distorted version of the id monster, from Forbidden Planet.

pf.2013.08.03.0820.id.monster.from.forbidden.planet.jpg


:redface:

ps. Things appear to be nearing completion.
multiquote: check!
postcount: check!
avatars not microscopic: check!
online users display not funky: check!

:smile:
 
  • #77
i move to motion for chat on saturdays also.
 
  • #78
I'm still messing with the postbit area, but I need to leave for a wedding. I should have it complete sometime tomorrow. Thanks for the patience!
 
  • #79
Greg Bernhardt said:
It is temporary

Ok, thank you.

And may I add that it was a good choice to go with the gold name.
 
  • #80
My supporter membership "SM" looks really tiny ! I think this is the case with everyone. However I am quite ill at ease for having endured changing looks of PF.. :(

Well keep doing experiments Greg ! :)

In my "friends list" , names are not visible except those who are mentors/admins.
 
  • #81
sankalpmittal said:
My supporter membership "SM" looks really tiny ! I think this is the case with everyone. However I am quite ill at ease for having endured changing looks of PF.. :(

Well keep doing experiments Greg ! :)

In my "friends list" , names are not visible except those who are mentors/admins.

And for those that have no avatar, the badge and the number of posts are wayyyyy too close!

Bah. It's worse than it was ://
 
  • #82
Greg Bernhardt said:
I'm still messing with the postbit area, but I need to leave for a wedding. I should have it complete sometime tomorrow. Thanks for the patience!

Is that today? :eek:

hmmmm... Come to think of it, I didn't open my last wedding invitation until after the wedding was over.

Does anyone know where Wisconsin is?
 
  • #83
The avatar with the posts below is fine. However, the awards look a bit odd. I wonder if the awards could appear below the white box, each a separate square with a black border, that might look okay. Or not.
 
  • #84
x2791258 said:
Bah. It's worse than it was ://
You've literally been complaining non-stop since the changes started. Why not just let him finish? You do realize it's just one guy working on the changes right?
 
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  • #85
On some posts, the "HH" or "SM" designaton is right next to the letter P, with no room in between.

By the way, I preferred how "Homework Helper" and other badges were displayed prominently before. (I'm talking about before the change that happened a while back when PhysicsForums got a whole new look.) That made it easy, when skimming a long thread, to pick out at a glance posts written by Science Advisors and Mentors.
 
  • #86
I really like it better now that the avatars are on the left side instead of on the blue bar ! It's much more clear who wrote the post that way (at least for usual suspect you recognize with their avatars).
 
  • #88
Greg Bernhardt said:
At a wedding all day. I know it's still broken. :)

Enjoy the wedding! You deserve time off!
 
  • #89
The member postbit is pretty much final now. Still a few more small tweaks involving username color to finish.
 
  • #90
I just wanted to see how I look in my new livery.

[edit]Cool. Cheap at twice the price.
 
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