Time dependent annihilation op

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time-dependent annihilation operators in quantum field theory (QFT), specifically focusing on the creation of particle states using time-independent operators and their implications in free and interacting theories. Participants explore the mathematical and conceptual foundations of these operators, including their effects on particle localization in momentum and position space.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the relation \mid k \rangle=a^{\dag} (\vec{k}) \mid 0 \rangle is only valid in free theory, suggesting a need for clarification on the limitations of this formulation.
  • Another participant proposes that the time-independent operator creates a particle with a smeared momentum range, which is necessary to comply with the uncertainty principle, rather than a definite momentum.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the propagation and spreading of the wave packet created by the time-independent operator, indicating a desire for a mathematical explanation of this phenomenon.
  • One participant provides an understanding of the creation operator defined in terms of the field operator and its validity in free fields, noting that interactions may complicate the algebra of these operators.
  • The same participant explains that the wave packet is used to ensure particles are well separated in time, which is crucial for the derivation of the LSZ formula connecting transition amplitudes to correlation functions.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of renormalization on the validity of the LSZ derivation, highlighting the complexities introduced by quantum corrections.

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Participants express various viewpoints regarding the nature and implications of time-independent operators, with no consensus reached on the specific questions raised. Some participants provide insights and clarifications, while others continue to seek understanding, indicating ongoing uncertainty and debate.

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Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of operators and the unresolved mathematical steps regarding the propagation of wave packets. The discussion also reflects differing levels of familiarity with QFT concepts among participants.

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Hi,

In the free theory [tex]\mid k \rangle=a^{\dag} (\vec{k}) \mid 0 \rangle[/tex]. Then in Srednicki chapt 5, he defines time-independent operator that he says in free theory creates a particle localized in momentum space about [tex]\vec{k_1}[/tex] as:

[tex]a^{\dag}_1 \equiv \int f_1 (\vec{k}) a^{\dag}(\vec{k}) \,d^3 x[/tex]

where,

[tex]f_1 (\vec{k}) \propto \exp{ -\frac{(\vec{k}-\vec{k_1})^2} {4\sigma^2} }[/tex]

I have a few questions about this:

Firstly why is [tex]\mid k \rangle=a^{\dag} (\vec{k}) \mid 0 \rangle[/tex], creating a one particle state only valid in the free theory?

Secondly what is the point in this time independent operator? Is it something along the lines of a particle you create shouldn't have absolutely definite momentum k, as would be the case using the first creation operator, it must have a smeared momentum range about some value, to account for then uncertainty relation?

I'm just finding it weird because in a previous QFT course I studied (not using the path integral approach), I never seen this relation, and everything just seemed to work fine with only [tex]\mid k \rangle=a^{\dag} (\vec{k}) \mid 0 \rangle[/tex].

Finally how does this time independent operator create a particle localized in position space near the origin?

thanks
 
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Also I'm having issues seeing why if we act with this time independent operator on the vacuum [tex]a^{\dag}_1 \mid 0 \rangle[/tex] the wave packet will propopagate and spread out (presumably in space, not momentum?). This sounds intuitive but I can't see it mathematically, but I think that that is related to my final question above.
 
hmm, perhaps my questions where too vague? Sorry, I'm finding hard to express exactly what it is I don't understand here.
Perhaps my final concrete question would be the solid one to ask: "how does this time independent operator create a particle localized in position space near the origin?"

thanks for any help
 
Disclaimer: My QFT is self-taught. Always willing to be corrected! Here's my understanding:

Srednicki uses the creation operator defined in terms of the field operator:
[tex]a^{\dag}(k) = -i \int d^3 x e^{ikx} \stackrel{\leftrightarrow}{\partial_0} \phi(x)[/tex]
The operators defined in this way only obey the algebra for creation&annihilation operators if the field is a free field. What you hope in the interacting theory is that the interaction doesn't spoil the algebra as long as the particle wave packets are well separated, which allows you to define in and out scattering states as (approximately) free particle states.

He then defines a new creation operator that creates a wave packet state. [tex]f_1 (x) \propto e^{-(k-k_1)^2 / 4\sigma}[/tex] is just the Fourier transform of the wave packet in position space, which is centered at the origin and has average momentum [tex]k_1[/tex].

The reason for the wave packet is that in the derivation coming up (eq 5.10 on pg 50 in my copy of the text) he needs to integrate by parts and the wave packet allows you to rigorously drop the boundary terms. You can drop the wave packet after that. The physical reason for the wave packets is to ensure that the particles are well separated in the distant past and distant future, meaning the interactions will be weak and there is a chance that the approximation in terms of free particle in and out states is meaningful.

The result is the LSZ formula which connects transition amplitudes (what you want to compute cross sections etc) to time ordered correlation functions (what you compute using path integrals/Feynman diagrams etc).

Of course renormalization (i.e., quantum corrections) screws everything and you then have to go back and check that everything in the LSZ derivation goes through, which leads to things like wave function renormalization and rules for "amputating" Feynman diagrams.

Hope this helps.
 

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