Time dilation: period of a clock

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time dilation in the context of special relativity, specifically focusing on the relationship between proper time and measured time intervals for a moving spaceship. The original poster questions the assignment of time intervals in different reference frames when a spaceship moves at a velocity of 3c/5.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify whether to assign t = 1 or t' = 1 in their calculations, exploring the implications of each choice on the perceived time intervals. Some participants discuss the equivalence of the two reference frames and the definitions of proper time.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of proper time and reference frames, with some expressing understanding of the distinctions involved. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the definitions of t and t' in the context of the problem, and some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of time intervals in different frames.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions of proper time and the implications of observing time intervals from different reference frames. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and clarifications regarding the assignment of time variables in the context of the problem.

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t' = t * sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2),

where t' is the proper time interval, and t is the measured time interval in another reference frame.

Homework Statement /

Q: A spaceship is moving past us at a velocity of v = 3c/5. If, in our frame of reference, we measure a time interval of 1 second, what will be the time measured by clocks within the moving ship?

Actually, I'm questioning the solution that I'm given. I can get the same answer in both ways, but I want to confirm if I am correct in theory. So my question would be: should I assign t = 1 or t' = 1? The solution I was given suggests t = 1 such that t' = 0.8s.

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In my opinion, it's t' = 1 because each event (successive positions of the second hand; let's suppose it's analog) of the clock with us is observed to occur at the same position, while that of the clock(s) within the moving ship are observed to occur at different positions. Hence 1 second is the proper time interval. This gives me t = 1.25s, which is the measured period of the second hand's motion on the ship. Then taking 1/1.25 = 0.8, we have 0.8 of a cycle of the second hand's motion on the moving ship - the time showed on the clock on the ship is 0.8s.
 
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Of course, they are equivalent.
Usually, one takes the unprimed system to be the "rest" system and the primed system the one moving with respect to it.
In this question, we are given that the elapsed time in our rest system is 1 second, and we are asked for the corresponding time in the moving system.

What you are doing is considering an observer on the spaceship and asking the question: if one second passes in the space ship, how much time will pass on ephedyns clock. The answer is indeed 1.25 second, so if this observer would time 1/1.25 seconds instead of 1/1 second, then 1 second would pass on your watch.
 
OK, I understand now. Just to make sure, so am I correct to say that the proper time interval is the time on the clock in the ship as measured by the observer in the unprimed system (me)?

Thanks a lot!
 
On second thoughts, forget that confirmation. I've got it. The proper time interval is the time on the clock in the ship as measured by the observer in the ship, since it would occur to the observer on the ship that the positions remain unchanged.

But thanks very much nonetheless for sorting out the idea of primed and unprimed frames of reference; I was referring to Halliday and it avoids this phrasing, which I find a little harder to grasp.
 

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