Time it takes a pendulum to reach a point

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a pendulum problem involving a 150g mass on a 2.2m long string, initially pulled to an angle of 6.6° and released. The main question is about determining the time it takes for the pendulum to reach an angle of 2.8° on the opposite side.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of energy concepts and harmonic motion equations, questioning the applicability of these methods to the pendulum's motion. There are attempts to relate angular displacement to the pendulum's position and time.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with some participants providing guidance on the definitions and relationships between variables. There is an ongoing clarification of the correct approach to determine the time taken for the pendulum to reach the specified angle on the opposite side.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions of period and angular displacement, as well as the implications of measuring angles from the vertical position of the pendulum. There are indications of confusion regarding the correct values and relationships in the equations being used.

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Homework Statement


A 150g mass on a 2.2m long string is pulled 6.6° to one side and released. How long does it take for the pendulum to reach 2.8° on the opposite side


Homework Equations


I don't know


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know where to start. I was thinking using energy but we don't have the equation for harmonic motion energy only works for springs. The other way I thought was to use x=Acos(ωt), v=-ωAsin(ωt), and a=-ω2Acos(ωt) but I can't get the right answer.
 
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Could you show your work?
 
x=Acos(ωt) is a good choice. Can you relate all the symbols in this equation to the pendulum problem you need to solve? [EDIT: Whoops, I see stepped in after frogjg2003 already started. Sorry. And I should also have asked DRC12 to show some details of what he/she already tried.]
 
ω=(g/L)^.5=2.11
T=2π/ω=2.98
x=Acos(ωt)
2.8=6.6cos(2.11t)
2.8/6.6=.424=cos(2.11t)
arccos(.424)=2.11t
t=.539s; Time it takes for pendulum to go from 2.8° to 6.6°
Then the time it to go from 6.6° to 2.8° on the other side is 2.98-.539=2.44s
 
DRC12 said:
2.98-.539=2.44s
Everything looks good except the use of the period T here.
 
TSny said:
Everything looks good except the use of the period T here.
but I'm looking for the time it takes for the pendulum to go from 6.6° to 2.8° on the opposite side not the same side
 
Right. What's the definition of "period"?
 
Remember, it's 2.8 degrees on the opposite side. What is the x position then?
 
TSny said:
Right. What's the definition of "period"?
The time it takes to go from A to -A and bak then the time should be T/2-.53=.96s

frogjg2003 said:
Remember, it's 2.8 degrees on the opposite side. What is the x position then?
since it's on the other side it would be 9.4 but if you plug that into the equation 9.4=6.6cos(ωt)
arccos(1.42)=ωt but 1.42 is out of the range of cos
 
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DRC12 said:
The time it takes to go from A to -A and bak then the time should be T/2-.53=.96s

Right. Good. But frogjg2003 is giving you hints for an easier way. Remember, θ is measured from the vertical position of the pendulum.
 
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TSny said:
But frogjg2003 is giving you hints for an easier way. Remember, θ is measured from the vertical position of the pendulum.
I'm still confused about what frogjg2003 is saying
 
  • #12
What is the value of x when the pendulum is 2.8 deg on the opposite side? It can't be 9.4 deg. That would make the pendulum higher than it started.
 
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  • #13
Plug t=.96s into x=A\cos(\omega t). What value do you get for x? What's so special about that value?
Note: There will be some rounding errors, ignore those.
 
  • #14
It's negative got it. Thanks both of you
 

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