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Today I learned that cleaning a white hat can be done with bleach cleaner, but it’s important to rinse it before wearing it again. I also discovered that "oyster veneering," a woodworking technique from the late 1600s, is experiencing a minor revival despite its labor-intensive nature. Additionally, I learned that the factorial of 23 (23!) equals 25,852,016,738,884,976,640,000, which interestingly has 23 digits, a unique coincidence among factorials. I found out that medical specialists often spend less than 10 minutes with patients, and that watching TV can contribute to weight gain. Other insights included the fact that a kiss can transfer around 80 million microbes, and that bureaucracy can sometimes hinder employment opportunities. The discussion also touched on various trivia, such as the emotional sensitivity of barn owls and the complexities of gravitational lensing around black holes.
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TIL that the best way to paint a wood paling fence is before you nail all the palings up 🤦‍♂️

I also learned that colour selection is impossible! Tiny swatches, terrible store lighting, expensive sample pots, and marketing names that have nothing to do with reality. It's a choice nightmare :nb)
 
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Melbourne Guy said:
I also learned that colour selection is impossible! Tiny swatches, terrible store lighting, expensive sample pots, and marketing names that have nothing to do with reality. It's a choice nightmare
When we moved into our house, the downstairs bathroom was painted an off-white, but a nasty one that looked sort of dilute nicotine yellow. We decided a light colour was good but the yellow was ugly, so we went out and bought three sample pots in blue, green and brown tinted off-whites. I painted three patches, left them to dry, and found that there were only two patches because our nice brown tinted off-white turned out to be identical to the nasty nicotine yellow tinted one. Fortunately the blue tinted one was nice.
 
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Sample paints are on the agenda for me today. We're getting ready to paint the kitchen a new color. :oldsmile:
 
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Borg said:
Sample paints are on the agenda for me today. We're getting ready to paint the kitchen a new color. :oldsmile:
When my daughter was a toddler, she managed to paint a large part of the "play room" in raspberry spots - I think it was by sneezing into her drinking cup. You won't find that scheme in sample paints!
 
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TIL about the absolute 'destined to lose' situation: colds lasts 4-5 days, but if you use a nasal spray that long, what you are up to is a rebound congestion.
Does not feels good.
 
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Yesterday I learned that Roger Penrose once sued a toilet paper manufacturer for using his Penrose tiling without permission.

A Penrose tiling is infinite but non-periodic (never repeats itself), so, when embossed on a roll of paper, would reduce the chances of adjacent sheets sticking together.

Ref: Toilet Paper Plagiarism
 
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Ibix said:
When we moved into our house, the downstairs bathroom was painted an off-white, but a nasty one that looked sort of dilute nicotine yellow. We decided a light colour was good but the yellow was ugly, so we went out and bought three sample pots in blue, green and brown tinted off-whites. I painted three patches, left them to dry, and found that there were only two patches because our nice brown tinted off-white turned out to be identical to the nasty nicotine yellow tinted one. Fortunately the blue tinted one was nice.

The contractor who helped me fix up my current abode found a solution to this color problem.

Pure white walls appear stark, excessively bright, and easily show dirt and stains.
Adding yellow can result in an aged, literally 'yellowed', appearance unpleasant to many people.

The contractor added red to a flat white base achieving a mellow rose tint pleasing to the eye that hides or deemphasizes basic stains. I forget the name of the red pigment, but the resultant tint remains popular in American southwest and Mexican interiors. The rose color matches light or 'oak' wooden floors and wooden furniture. We painted ceiling, doors and mouldings in white semi-gloss that compliment the rose walls.

The blue solution also works well, particularly in bedrooms and bathrooms, also matching wood wainscoting and floors.
 
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Klystron said:
The contractor added red to a flat white base achieving a mellow rose tint pleasing to the eye that hides or deemphasizes basic stains. I forget the name of the red pigment, but the resultant tint remains popular in American southwest and Mexican interiors. The rose color matches light or 'oak' wooden floors and wooden furniture.
Magnolia? That's the standard "neutral" colour that everyone here paints their house when they're trying to sell it. A lot of the walls here are magnolia because the previous owners did that (it belonged to their mother and I think the original colour scheme reflected a unique taste, shall we say) and I've no particular urge to repaint them. The bathroom was a slightly different colour, though, and rather ugly.
 
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Ibix said:
Magnolia? That's the standard "neutral" colour that everyone here paints their house when they're trying to sell it. A lot of the walls here are magnolia because the previous owners did that (it belonged to their mother and I think the original colour scheme reflected a unique taste, shall we say) and I've no particular urge to repaint them. The bathroom was a slightly different colour, though, and rather ugly.
Hmm... Magnolia appears to be a cream color. The white paint can is labelled 'eggshell'. The red additive can has a list of numbers without a descriptive label. The painter mixed the colors at the paint store then brought the 'rose' tint in the original 'eggshell' gallon cans. I will ask the painter what they call the result.
 
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Jonathan Scott said:
paint a large part of the "play room" in raspberry spots - I think it was by sneezing into her drinking cup
A baby experimentalist.
 
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Ibix said:
the standard "neutral" colour
How about a nice warm colour?:
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That color approximately is the current color of the sky where I am. The local temperature is 25 degrees F.
 
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TIL that NFL "Long Snappers" have developed the amazing skill to be able to snap field goals so that the laces of the football consistently face forward toward the goal posts when the holder catches the snap and puts the football straight down on end (so that the holder does not need to rotate the football and the kicker never sees the laces) -- "Laces Out!.

I was listening to a local sports talk radio station on my way home from work today (yes, it's Saturday), and they were interviewing a retired veteran football player whose specialty was "Long Snapper". That's the player who hikes the ball for field goals and punts. I was amazed when he said that he was one of the first long snappers who developed the skill to always snap the football so that the holder who catches the snap and puts it down for the kicker does not need to rotate the ball at all before the kick.

Apparently when he first got to the professional level, his first kicker asked him "Can you snap it so the laces are always out?" He thought he might be able to do it, and with practice he perfected the art of maintaining just 3-3.5 rotations of the football (depending on a right- or left- footed kicker) from his snap to the catch by the field goal holder.

What amazing skill, and I had no idea. I do remember that years ago it was common to see the holder routinely rotate the football as part of the field goal, and I hardly ever see that happening anymore. So apparently it has caught on as a required skill for long snappers in the NFL. I don't think I could be that consistent in my overhand throws! :smile:

Here's a blog entry describing the skill:

https://longsnapper.com/laces-out/

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Melbourne Guy said:
TIL that the best way to paint a wood paling fence is before you nail all the palings up 🤦‍♂️

I also learned that colour selection is impossible! Tiny swatches, terrible store lighting, expensive sample pots, and marketing names that have nothing to do with reality. It's a choice nightmare :nb)
You can (effectively) get 3-in-1 from a single sample pot by going half-tint and quarter-tint (diluting with white). Don't skimp on sample pots. They're not expensive compared to the psychological cost of living with something you don't like.

Start by making medium sized samples, say 300mm square(ish). When you think you're getting close to right hue+shade, make some very large samples, 900x600 or bigger, e.g., on sheets of cardboard of whatever. If it's still not quite right, go get some more sample pots and repeat.

For the samples, if your starting board is not already white, then use a double white undercoat first, then 2-3 topcoats, to be sure you're getting a correct impression.
 
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strangerep said:
You can (effectively) get 3-in-1 from a single sample pot by going half-tint and quarter-tint (diluting with white). Don't skimp on sample pots. They're not expensive compared to the psychological cost of living with something you don't like...
@strangerep, I can see now that I approached the entire fence painting project with ZERO effective planning and it's coming back to bite me. Fortunately, Melbourne's summer is finally biting this week, so I've a natural reason to regroup because it's too hot to paint much. But we've a single coat on most of the palings already, so am committed to at least completing a first coat on the rest, then the colour matching can commence in earnest. And in this case, colour is important because the fence is 13 meters long along the driveway and highly visible, so your advice is spot on 👍
 
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Melbourne Guy said:
[...] colour is important because the fence is 13 meters long along the driveway and highly visible, so your advice is spot on 👍
For exterior timber like fences (and also deck supports if visible) I reckon it's hard to go wrong with "forest green" from the colourbond range. It's a very dark grey but with a green hint, so it blends well with any surrounding vegetation. Dark colours also have a de-emphasizing visual effect -- which is probably what one wants since paling fences are not exactly the most attractive things.

Btw, that colour is also called "zeus" in the dulux range.
 
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strangerep said:
For exterior timber like fences (and also deck supports if visible) I reckon it's hard to go wrong with "forest green" from the colourbond range. It's a very dark grey but with a green hint, so it blends well with any surrounding vegetation. Dark colours also have a de-emphasizing visual effect -- which is probably what one wants since paling fences are not exactly the most attractive things.

Btw, that colour is also called "zeus" in the dulux range.
Disney invented "Go Away Green".

https://www.housebeautiful.com/room-decorating/colors/a3915/disney-go-away-green/
 
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Crabs can get scammed too. :oldfrown:

 
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"most skilled typists don't know where the letters are located on the standard keyboard". [ref]

I found this out this morning after playing Wordle, and was curious why my fingers typed out a word that was phonetically correct, but spelled with the wrong letter, but was spelled correctly.
 
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TIL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Bluetooth#Bluetooth_technology said:

Bluetooth technology​

The Bluetooth wireless specification design was named after the king in 1997, based on an analogy that the technology would unite devices the way Harald Bluetooth united the tribes of Denmark into a single kingdom. The Bluetooth logo
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consists of a Younger Futhark bind rune for his initials, H (ᚼ) and B (ᛒ).

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Today I learned that professional pillow fighting is a thing.

 
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TIL that the 21st century began on January 1st, 2001.

Like a stupid programmer, I instinctively thought It began on January 1st, 2000.

I never realized the year zero doesn't exist.
 
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You can modulate from C major to B# major, but would not recommend trying this at home
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jack action said:
I never realized the year zero doesn't exist.
I tried telling people that in 2000, but soon gave up. Is there an official definition of 21st century anywhere?
Wikipedia says there are two viewpoints :
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Keith_McClary said:
I tried telling people that in 2000, but soon gave up. Is there an official definition of 21st century anywhere?
Wikipedia says there are two viewpoints :
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There's a lot more info on the page Year Zero.

Not having a year zero might create a problem mathematically when doing calculations across BC and AD, but really what does "Year 0" mean? Zero is supposed the be a single transition point, not an elapsed time.

Even if we want to use a Year Zero, it would be more logical mathematically to use a 0 BC and a 0 AD. This way the date would represent "the number of years since" and the month and day would be the decimal part. But that would be confusing to everyone now as we would have to subtract 1 year from the years on the Gregorian calendar.
 
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BWV said:
You can modulate from C major to B# major, [...]
It's been a long time since I formally learned music, but I thought that B# is the same thing as C (at least, on a normal piano keyboard)? :oldconfused:
 
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strangerep said:
It's been a long time since I formally learned music, but I thought that B# is the same thing as C (at least, on a normal piano keyboard)? :oldconfused:
Yes, C and B# are the same note on a piano, but theoretically not the same. In the key of C#, for example, B# is the correct notation for that pitch. But the key of B# is silly, even though the modulation I posted came from a book by Max Reger, who was a great turn-of-the century composer
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Today I learned that "chasing the dragon" is slang for smoking heroin.
It refers to chasing the initial high off of many drugs. Unfortunately that initial high "feel" is no longer obtainable. One can certainly spiral into addiction chasing it.
 
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TIL:

1936 - the term “volkswagen” was used on entry level cars from different companies before it became the Volkswagen we know from the KdF car.

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