Toothpick Squares Sequence for nth # toothpicks

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The discussion revolves around modeling the number of toothpicks required to construct a sequence of stacked square figures. Participants explore the relationship between the figure number (n) and the total number of toothpicks used, considering various arrangements and layers of squares.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Renee seeks help in modeling the function for the number of toothpicks in the nth figure, indicating uncertainty about the arrangement of squares.
  • Jameson suggests that additional clarification is needed regarding the arrangement of squares and offers a video resource for context.
  • Participants describe the arrangement of squares in layers, noting that the pattern is not linear and that sides are lost as more squares are added.
  • Sudharaka provides a detailed breakdown of the number of toothpicks arranged horizontally and vertically for the first few figures, proposing a formula for the total number of toothpicks in the nth figure.
  • Another participant presents a sequence of total toothpicks used in the figures and analyzes the differences between consecutive terms, suggesting that the function is quadratic.
  • Participants engage in deriving coefficients for a quadratic function based on the first few terms of the sequence, leading to a proposed formula for the nth term.
  • Renee expresses gratitude for the assistance and confirms that the responses have helped clarify her understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While there is a general agreement on the approach to modeling the problem, multiple interpretations of the arrangement of squares and the resulting calculations exist. The discussion includes various proposed formulas and methods, indicating that no single consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the arrangement of squares affects the total number of toothpicks, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the specific configurations used in the figures. The derivation of the quadratic function relies on assumptions about the sequence of toothpicks that may not be universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in mathematical modeling, particularly in combinatorial geometry or sequences involving geometric arrangements.

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Please help! I'm stuck on modeling the function for the # of toothpicks in the nth figure. Thank you so much. Renee
 
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artemishunts200 said:
Please help! I'm stuck on modeling the function for the # of toothpicks in the nth figure. Thank you so much. Renee

Hi artemishunts200, (Wave)

Welcome to MHB. I think something is missing from your question. Is there a diagram in your book or some more info that you haven't posted yet? It will depend on the figures you are trying to draw.

Here's a video discussing this problem with where the figures are houses.

U03_L1_T1_we2 Inductive Patterns - YouTube

Jameson

EDIT: Sorry, I missed "squares" in your title. Still could use some more clarification because you could draw squares a bunch of different ways, depending on how they are connected.
 
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Jameson said:
Hi artemishunts200, (Wave)

Welcome to MHB. I think something is missing from your question. Is there a diagram in your book or some more info that you haven't posted yet? It will depend on the figures you are trying to draw.

Here's a video discussing this problem with where the figures are houses.

U03_L1_T1_we2 Inductive Patterns - YouTube

Jameson

EDIT: Sorry, I missed "squares" in your title. Still could use some more clarification because you could draw squares a bunch of different ways, depending on how they are connected.

I have looked at the diagram you've mentioned. My diagram begins with one square as fig. 1, then fig. 2 has a base of three squares with 1 square on top; fig. 3 has a base of five squares with the 2nd layer having three squares and the third layer having 1 square; figure 4. has a base of 7 squares, next layer has 5, next layer has 3, next layer has 1... Does this help? I know this is not a linear pattern, and I know I am losing sides as squares are added. The question is how many toothpicks in all for the nth figure.​
 
artemishunts200 said:
I have looked at the diagram you've mentioned. My diagram begins with one square as fig. 1, then fig. 2 has a base of three squares with 1 square on top; fig. 3 has a base of five squares with the 2nd layer having three squares and the third layer having 1 square; figure 4. has a base of 7 squares, next layer has 5, next layer has 3, next layer has 1... Does this help? I know this is not a linear pattern, and I know I am losing sides as squares are added. The question is how many toothpicks in all for the nth figure.

I'm not sure I can solve this for you but don't worry, someone will soon enough. We have very knowledgeable members. Just for clarification though, let me double check I get what you are describing.

1) 1 square: 4 toothpicks
2) 4 squares (this is where I need to know how you're arranging them): $(4 \cdot 4)-2-1=13$ This is assuming the middle square in bottom row of squares shares two toothpicks the squares on either side and the top square shares its bottom toothpick with the row below.

Is this how it looks? If not, you can upload images so you could draw one of the diagrams in paint in 2 minutes and upload it. I'll look into adding a chalkboard/whiteboard feature for drawing diagrams.
 
Yes, you are on the right track. That is absolutely corect. Yes, I wish there was a whiteboard. I will see if I can upload a diagram from Paint...

Here is the diagram...please forgive my unsteady hand. (Smile)

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Ok great. I think this enough for others to go on. Sit tight, someone else will hopefully help you soon enough. :)
 
artemishunts200 said:
I have looked at the diagram you've mentioned. My diagram begins with one square as fig. 1, then fig. 2 has a base of three squares with 1 square on top; fig. 3 has a base of five squares with the 2nd layer having three squares and the third layer having 1 square; figure 4. has a base of 7 squares, next layer has 5, next layer has 3, next layer has 1... Does this help? I know this is not a linear pattern, and I know I am losing sides as squares are added. The question is how many toothpicks in all for the nth figure.​

Hi artemishunts200, :)

If you consider the number of toothpicks arranged horizontally and the number of toothpicks arranged vertically separately,

Figure 1 has \(1+1\) toothpicks arranged horizontally and \(1\times 2\) toothpicks arranged vertically.

Figure 2 has \(3+3+1\) toothpicks arranged horizontally and \((1+2)\times 2\) toothpicks arranged vertically.

Figure 3 has \(5+5+3+1\) toothpicks arranged horizontally and \((1+2+3)\times 2\) toothpicks arranged vertically.

Figure 4 has \(7+7+5+3+1\) toothpicks arranged horizontally and \((1+2+3+4)\times 2\) toothpicks arranged vertically.

Therefore the nth figure has \(1+2(n-1)+\frac{n}{2}[2+2(n-1)]=n^2+2n-1\) arranged horizontally and \((1+2+\cdots+n)\times 2=n(n+1)\) toothpicks arranged vertically.

Therefore the total number of toothpicks in the nth figure is, \(n^2+2n-1+n(n+1)=2n^2+3n-1\).

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
Hello, Renee!

From your description, I think I understand the problem.We have a "stack" of rows of squares.
The rows have consecutive odd numbers of squarea.
The squares are made of toothpicks.
How many toothpicks are used in the n^{th} diagram?

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                                                                       n=4

                                         n=3                          * - *
                                                                      |   |
                   n=2                  * - *                     * - * - * - *
                                        |   |                     |   |   |   |
     n=1          * - *             * - * - * - *             * - * - * - * - * - *
                  |   |             |   |   |   |             |   |   |   |   |   |
    * - *     * - * - * - *     * - * - * - * - * - *     * - * - * - * - * - * - * - *
    |   |     |   |   |   |     |   |   |   |   |   |     |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
    * - *     * - * - * - *     * - * - * - * - * - *     * - * - * - * - * - * - * - *
      4             13                    26                            43

We have the sequence: .4,13,26,64,\;\text{ . . .}

Take the differences of consecutive terms,
then take the differences of the differences, and so on.

\begin{array}{|c|ccccccccc|}\hline \text{Sequence} & 4 && 13 && 26 && 43 && 64 \\ \hline \text{1st diff.} && 9 && 13 && 17 && 21 & \\ \hline \text{2nd diff.} &&& 4 && 4 && 4 && \\ \hline \end{array}

The second differences are constant.
Hence, the function is of the second degree . . . a quadratic.

The general quadratic function is: .f(n) \:=\:an^2 + bn + c

To find a,b,c, we use the first three values of f(n).

. . \begin{array}{ccccc}f(1) = 4: & a + b + c &=& 4 & [1] \\ f(2) = 13: & 4a + 2b + c &=& 13 & [2] \\ f(3) = 26: & 9a + 3b + c &=& 26 & [3] \end{array}

\begin{array}{ccccc}\text{Subtract [3]-[2]:} & 5a + b &=& 13 & [4] \\ \text{Subtract [2]-[1]:} & 3a + b &=& 9 & [5] \end{array}

\text{Subtract [4]-[5]: }\;2a\:=\:4 \quad\Rightarrow\quad a \:=\:2

\text{Substitute into [5]: }\;6 + b \:=\:9 \quad\Rightarrow\quad b \:=\:3

\text{Substitute into [1]: }\;2 + 3 + c \:=\:4 \quad\Rightarrow\quad c \:=\:-1\text{Therefore, the }n^{th}\text{ term is: }\:f(n) \:=\:2n^2 + 3n - 1
 
Thank you so much, guys! I knew I was on the right track, but I just couldn't get all of it! You are AWESOME! (Ninja)
Renee

 
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artemishunts200 said:
Thank you so much, guys! I knew I was on the right track, but I just couldn't get all of it! You are AWESOME! (Ninja)
Renee

Glad to hear that our answers helped you. :)
 

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