Topological and Metric Properties

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between topological and metric properties in the context of topological spaces and metric spaces. Participants explore definitions, relationships, and examples of these properties, as well as the implications of these distinctions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that two topological spaces are isometric if they share the same metric properties and homeometric if they share the same topological properties.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that if a space is homeomorphic, it is also isometric, arguing that this statement does not hold true.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of properties being metric or topological, with one participant suggesting that every topological property is a metric one, but not vice versa.
  • Questions are raised about whether Cauchiness and Boundedness are metric properties, with references to how changing the metric can affect Cauchiness.
  • Continuity of functions is mentioned as a topological property, implying a connection to the space in question.
  • One participant emphasizes that two spaces can be homeomorphic without being isometric.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement on several points, particularly regarding the definitions and implications of homeomorphic and isometric spaces. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the relationships between topological and metric properties.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of terms like "homeo" and "iso," as well as the implications of properties like Cauchiness and Boundedness in different contexts.

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Can someone explain the difference between the two?

2 topo spaces are isometric if they have the same metric properties and homeometric if they have the same topological properties.

If a space is homeo it is iso, but not vice verse. Which begs the conclusion that every topological property is a metric one, but not every metric is topological.
Is it that a property is metric if it is related to the metric used on the space. That's how in the same space like R, we can prove that cauchiness is not topological by changing the metric. So is Cauchiness a metric property? What about Boundedness?
However continuity of a function is topological. Meaning it is mainly linked to the space we're working in?

I'd appreciate some input and especially examples of different metric and topological properties.
 
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"metric" spaces form a subset of all topological spaces- that is a metric space is a topological space in which the topology is defined by a specfic metric. But not all topological spaces are metric spaces. It is NOT true that "if a space is homeo then it is iso". In fact, it doesn't even make sense to talk about a space being "homeo" or "iso". Two spaces may be homeomorphic or isomorphic to one another.

As for "every topological property is a metric one but not every metric (property) is topological". Yes, a metric space is a topological space so every property defined for all topological spaces applies to metric spaces also. No, not every topological space admits a metric so some properties of metric spaces (such as "bounded") applies to general topological spaces. If, by "Cauchiness" (a word I hope I never use again!) you mean "the Cauchy Criterion", that is, necessarily a metric property since you require that |a_n- a_m| go to 0 which requires a metric.

Note that "compactness" is a topological property but "boundedness" is not so it only makes sense to ask if all compact sets are bounded in metric spaces.
 
Bachelier said:
Can someone explain the difference between the two?

2 topo spaces are isometric if they have the same metric properties and homeometric if they have the same topological properties.

If a space is homeo it is iso, but not vice verse. Which begs the conclusion that every topological property is a metric one, but not every metric is topological.
Is it that a property is metric if it is related to the metric used on the space. That's how in the same space like R, we can prove that cauchiness is not topological by changing the metric. So is Cauchiness a metric property? What about Boundedness?
However continuity of a function is topological. Meaning it is mainly linked to the space we're working in?

I'd appreciate some input and especially examples of different metric and topological properties.

Two spaces can be homeo without being iso.
 
I get it. Because if 2 homeo TPs have a different metric, then they won't be iso.

Thanks
 

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